What program do You Riot guys use for Art ?

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mamam4ja

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06-16-2011

What program do You Riot guys use for creating champion's Art ?


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Black Phoenix

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06-16-2011

Adobe Photoshop


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Swerto

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06-16-2011

The same thing everyone in the industry uses.

Photoshop.


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mamam4ja

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i wanna master it and work for RIOT lol


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NakedGranny

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The same thing everyone in the industry uses.

Photoshop.
artists who have been using PS for a long time, inevitably have a variety of custom tools -- everything from custom brushes to scripts and filters and who knows what other in-house-developed goodies attached. the reason PS is used instead of, say, Corel Painter is that PS is designed and developed specifically with production pipelines in mind. Corel Painter will produce pretty pictures too, but its purpose is to emulate the behaviors of physical art mediums. Corel is largely unconcerned with whether it can play nice with Maya or Zbrush (for example), and simply does not have the kind of customizability that PS gives.

there is no reason the artists at Riot couldn't paint these champion portraits in Corel other than that they probably don't have much experience with Corel -- they use PS for absolutely everything, and these champion portraits (like the one you just saw the video of) are only one kind of the many things they do. so PS was used to paint that image more because of convenience and circumstance rather than PS being incomparable to any other program out there.

i've seen ridiculous things created in Paint Tool Sai, for example -- but you can't build a pipeline around some dinky little oekaki-style sketch applet.

it only seems a bit like a contradiction when i say: the real software used to create Art is your very own proprietary, customized and in-house-developed little wetware package. the skill and experience of the artist matters, the tool, not really.


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SheepKing

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artists who have been using PS for a long time, inevitably have a variety of custom tools -- everything from custom brushes to scripts and filters and who knows what other in-house-developed goodies attached. the reason PS is used instead of, say, Corel Painter is that PS is designed and developed specifically with production pipelines in mind. Corel Painter will produce pretty pictures too, but its purpose is to emulate the behaviors of physical art mediums. Corel is largely unconcerned with whether it can play nice with Maya or Zbrush (for example), and simply does not have the kind of customizability that PS gives.

there is no reason the artists at Riot couldn't paint these champion portraits in Corel other than that they probably don't have much experience with Corel -- they use PS for absolutely everything, and these champion portraits (like the one you just saw the video of) are only one kind of the many things they do. so PS was used to paint that image more because of convenience and circumstance rather than PS being incomparable to any other program out there.

i've seen ridiculous things created in Paint Tool Sai, for example -- but you can't build a pipeline around some dinky little oekaki-style sketch applet.

it only seems a bit like a contradiction when i say: the real software used to create Art is your very own proprietary, customized and in-house-developed little wetware package. the skill and experience of the artist matters, the tool, not really.
i would like to make picture like riot do. the problem is that i suck in everything that is called art.


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NakedGranny

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i would like to make picture like riot do. the problem is that i suck in everything that is called art.
you must unlearn what you have learned.

there is no substitute for practice. it is work. it is hard. you will suck for many years, and then you will feel like you still suck for the rest of your life.

there is no such thing as "talent". there are only people who learned and those who have not yet. anyone can learn to be a great artist because Art is part of what being human means.

when starting out...

DO:
-- take art courses at your local cheap-ass community college, especially figure drawing (sometimes called "life drawing") courses. be sure they include detailed anatomical study. if there aren't live models in the studio every day, it's not worth your time.
-- go to Wal-Mart, buy a sketchbook. they're ~10 bucks. you want a hard-bound one.
-- draw in your sketchbook every day. buy a new one when that one fills up.
-- keep your sketchbooks forever.
-- a mechanical pencil is fine too.
-- learn to enjoy charcoal. it will encourage a more "naturalistic" (look it up) approach
-- try often to draw at an easel and in very large sizes from life (your classes will help with that)
-- take good criticism

DO NOT:
-- ever. ever. ever. draw in an anime style. that is not how you learn. period.
-- play LoL when you should be practicing drawing
-- go out and blow hundreds of bucks on expensive pencils and pens and **** you won't ever use
-- get pissy when you get Baby's First Bad Critique
-- take bad criticism
-- give up because you're pouting that you'll never be the best. there will always be a richer, sexier, smarter fish.
-- try to start in directly with 3D production software. period. if you have to ask how to start 3D modeling, you should not be yet.

painting is merely drawing with color, everything else about it is wrestling with the particular medium. playing around with sculpture in clay might really help you to "grasp" complex structures (like anatomy), and maybe you just like sculpting more than 2D art.


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Pieguy

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you must unlearn what you have learned.

there is no substitute for practice. it is work. it is hard. you will suck for many years, and then you will feel like you still suck for the rest of your life.

there is no such thing as "talent". there are only people who learned and those who have not yet. anyone can learn to be a great artist because Art is part of what being human means.

when starting out...

DO:
-- take art courses at your local cheap-ass community college, especially figure drawing (sometimes called "life drawing") courses. be sure they include detailed anatomical study. if there aren't live models in the studio every day, it's not worth your time.
-- go to Wal-Mart, buy a sketchbook. they're ~10 bucks. you want a hard-bound one.
-- draw in your sketchbook every day. buy a new one when that one fills up.
-- keep your sketchbooks forever.
-- a mechanical pencil is fine too.
-- learn to enjoy charcoal. it will encourage a more "naturalistic" (look it up) approach
-- try often to draw at an easel and in very large sizes from life (your classes will help with that)
-- take good criticism

DO NOT:
-- ever. ever. ever. draw in an anime style. that is not how you learn. period.
-- play LoL when you should be practicing drawing
-- go out and blow hundreds of bucks on expensive pencils and pens and **** you won't ever use
-- get pissy when you get Baby's First Bad Critique
-- take bad criticism
-- give up because you're pouting that you'll never be the best. there will always be a richer, sexier, smarter fish.
-- try to start in directly with 3D production software. period. if you have to ask how to start 3D modeling, you should not be yet.

painting is merely drawing with color, everything else about it is wrestling with the particular medium. playing around with sculpture in clay might really help you to "grasp" complex structures (like anatomy), and maybe you just like sculpting more than 2D art.
Holy. ****.


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XiTro

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06-16-2011

^ speaks truth.


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NakedGranny

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Holy. ****.
there are three career options for those likely reading this:

-- languish on a cubicle'd office floor doing meaningless work and get replaced by a computer in ten years and then realize that one has no skills or value as a person

-- pursue one's passion (whatever it may be) even though it will almost guarantee that one is dirt poor for the rest of one's happy life

-- marry someone rich

not everyone is interested in doing Science, Technology, Engineering and Math as their career (whether or not they are interested in those subjects). the world needs Artists too, and it so happens that Art is a deeply personal experience and journey. most people get discouraged for various obvious reasons.

i'd like to see the world become a more beautiful place.


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