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Shen's Best Equipment List

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AutoSponge

Senior Member

03-25-2010

Shen needs hp. Here's a list of the equipment you want and how they compare:

[CODE]Name gp Value Diff %Diff
Leviathan (full) 1275.00 2781.24 1506.24 2.18
Warmog's Armor (full) 3160.00 6287.70 3127.70 1.99
Doran's Shield 435.00 721.20 286.20 1.66
Doran's Blade 435.00 681.77 246.77 1.57
Warmog's Armor (half)+ 3160.00 4646.61 1486.61 1.47
Doran's ring 435.00 524.77 89.77 1.21
Rod of Ages (full) 3035.00 3397.91 362.91 1.12
Heart of Gold 975.00 1086.28 111.28 1.11
Leviathan (half)+ 1275.00 1290.70 15.70 1.01
Giant's Belt 1110.00 1110.00 0.00 1.00
Ruby Crystal 475.00 464.65 -10.35 0.98
Rylai's Scepter* 3105.00 3010.70 -94.30 0.97
Phage* 1315.00 1246.81 -68.19 0.95
Warmog's Armor+ 3200.00 3005.53 -194.47 0.94
Aegis of the Legion* 1925.00 1794.75 -130.25 0.93
Trinity Force* 4070.00 3657.34 -412.66 0.90
Frozen Mallet* 3240.00 2546.98 -693.02 0.79
Banchee's Veil* 2715.00 2040.38 -674.62 0.75
Rod of Ages+ 3035.00 2055.93 -979.07 0.68
Sunfire Cape* 2810.00 1861.63 -948.37 0.66
Soul Shroud 2285.00 1342.33 -942.67 0.59
Catalyst the Protector 1325.00 748.60 -576.40 0.56
Innervating Locket 2650.00 1110.00 -1540.00 0.42
Leviathan+ 1275.00 464.65 -810.35 0.36[/CODE]+ = This item scales
* = This item has properties not calculated in the value formula

General Observations: Leviathan is really bad if you get it late or the team is in a bad position but also really good if you get the stacks. Rylai's Scepter may be better than Frozen Mallet for CC/DPS. If you're behind, stacking HoGs until you can buy something better makes total sense. You can't go wrong with Doran's first.

Enjoy.


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Sarpati

Senior Member

03-25-2010

Does the Leviathan part consider the effective HP increase from the secondary effect of having 20 stacks?

[e] I guess that's not really something to be quantified, as it scales based on total HP.


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AutoSponge

Senior Member

03-25-2010

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Sarpati:
Does the Leviathan part consider the effective HP increase from the secondary effect of having 20 stacks?

[e] I guess that's not really something to be quantified, as it scales based on total HP.


Actually, based on my calculations, 15% mitigation is the same as 18 MR and 18 Armor. So, yes, I added that in the calculation. If anyone has a better estimation, let me know.


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PatMcGroyne

Senior Member

03-25-2010

Also as a tank it pretty unlikely that you will get 20 stacks... Yes possible but very unlikely... If you are a tank and getting 10 kills or 20 assists with no deaths it is because the other team is completely incompetent... I have played shen and he can't put out the damage to get the kills however he can get the assists.


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gakule

Recruiter

03-25-2010

Quote:
PatMcGroyne:
Also as a tank it pretty unlikely that you will get 20 stacks... Yes possible but very unlikely... If you are a tank and getting 10 kills or 20 assists with no deaths it is because the other team is completely incompetent... I have played shen and he can't put out the damage to get the kills however he can get the assists.


I get plenty of kills as shen with my build. I average 12 kills a game and 15 or so assists.


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AutoSponge

Senior Member

03-25-2010

Quote:
PatMcGroyne:
Also as a tank it pretty unlikely that you will get 20 stacks... Yes possible but very unlikely... If you are a tank and getting 10 kills or 20 assists with no deaths it is because the other team is completely incompetent... I have played shen and he can't put out the damage to get the kills however he can get the assists.


Levi got patched to give 2 stacks on kill OR assist. So you just need to go 5/0/5 or 3/0/7 or something. Shen has a better chance of getting that then, say, Alistar does IMO because he has burst damage and chasing ability.


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Jimmyjames

Member

03-25-2010

well shen has the ability to KS really well, in a 1v1 he can port over and get the last hit. but really thats it. Other wise you can turret taunt A-la Rammus


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AceSkyheart

Senior Member

03-25-2010

You get 2 stacks with leviathan whether you kill or get an assist
(https://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=897376)


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Sarpati

Senior Member

03-25-2010

Quote:
PatMcGroyne:
Also as a tank it pretty unlikely that you will get 20 stacks... Yes possible but very unlikely... If you are a tank and getting 10 kills or 20 assists with no deaths it is because the other team is completely incompetent... I have played shen and he can't put out the damage to get the kills however he can get the assists.

2 stacks per assist. He can participate in most ganks with his ulti. He can counter-gank. He's a great tower diver. I've never lost a 1v1 against physical DPS (about 12 games so far, around 9 wins). Sorry, but if you can't keep 20 stacks up, you're doing something wrong. Even in losing games with me dying a lot for the sake of the team, I very rarely went below 14 (participate 3 kills and you go back to 20).


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