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Viegar? Slightly OP?

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B33TL3

Senior Member

03-03-2011

I was playing a game last night. Veigar ended up with ~ 900 AP at the end. Nothing startingly super great about it, not over 1000.

But he was still 2 shotting Vlad, 3 shotting our Tank...

I'm not saying he's gamebreakingly OP, but in need of tweaking.
I think his buff this patch was unneeded, and his dark-matter ratio could use a bit of tweaking....

Thoughts?


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laterkillyou

Member

03-03-2011

veigar's stun is epic making him can escap everthing


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B33TL3

Senior Member

03-03-2011

Quote:
laterkillyou:
veigar's stun is epic making him can escap everthing


That has almost nothing to do with this thread.


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vynzs

Senior Member

03-03-2011

Your tank probably had low MR or/and some AP.
And 2 shotting vlad, it's perfectly normal if he has no tank items. (but he had to be terrible, because he can dodge projectiles)


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B33TL3

Senior Member

03-03-2011

Quote:
vynzs:
Your tank probably had low MR or/and some AP.
And 2 shotting vlad, it's perfectly normal if he has no tank items. (but he had to be terrible, because he can dodge projectiles)


Our Tank and FoN and Banshee's. :/


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WilSmith

Senior Member

03-03-2011

LAWL.

Viegar is not OP. Please go away.

He's a burst mage with a sweet stun effect. He's slow and useless after he drops his combo. You probably tried to rush him after he killed your vlad thinking that hes gonna get you next. Guess what, he's not.

Unless you cant get to him right away. You ignore him.
P.S. viegars feed themselves. - Did you harass him much when he was farming his Q? It's important you are constantly trying to deny him last hits, or veigars will wind up with that much ap every game.


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realgirl

Senior Member

03-03-2011

Veigar is so owned in a lane it's not even funny. Veigar needs a support healing him constantly, or 5 HP pots, or tons of luck, or all of the above.

Veigar is heavily dependent on farm. Which he is often deprived of.

Veigar is still squishy as heck when farmed up. Even tank Veigar (a popular build) is not very tanky.

He's UP, if not balanced, at this point.


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B33TL3

Senior Member

03-03-2011

Quote:
WilSmith:
LAWL.

Viegar is not OP. Please go away.

He's a burst mage with a sweet stun effect. He's slow and useless after he drops his combo. You probably tried to rush him after he killed your vlad thinking that hes gonna get you next. Guess what, he's not.

Unless you cant get to him right away. You ignore him.
P.S. viegars feed themselves. - Did you harass him much when he was farming his Q? It's important you are constantly trying to deny him last hits, or veigars will wind up with that much ap every game.


Vlad was mid. I have no idea what he was doing as I was concerned with Jarvan and Rammus at bottom.

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realgirl:
Veigar is so owned in a lane it's not even funny. Veigar needs a support healing him constantly, or 5 HP pots, or tons of luck, or all of the above.
Veigar is heavily dependent on farm. Which he is often deprived of.
Veigar is still squishy as heck when farmed up. Even tank Veigar (a popular build) is not very tanky.

He's UP, if not balanced, at this point.


Or he needs a really long stun. That seems to work, too.


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HiddenMartyr

Senior Member

03-03-2011

eh sorry I gotta agree with everyone else. Veigar is an anti caster/carry, there are plenty of champions that do the same thing less obviously. A great deal of his damage is based off your mana, making him fairly weak against people with low mana pools or no mana at all. He needs to farm himself to power and often cannot if you watch him.

The reality of it is, Veigar is completely reliant on how well your team does. There are other Nuking champs that do the same thing yet dont rely on this.


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Extirpation

Senior Member

03-03-2011

He is unbalanced

...if your an ap champ

otherwise he's one b-veil away from xin's pointy stick. He does one thing extraordinarily well, and pretty much demands mid in order to even do that.


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