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Queue Dodging = A Better Game

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Onlyashadow

Senior Member

01-27-2010

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Miles Long:
Onlyashadow, your posts are rank with the stench of a dedicated and self-righteous leaver, which is essentially what all queue dodgers are. What puzzles me is that you and others like you find some strange sort of pride in what you do. There's a wonderfully simple word for this abberant mentality: Griefing.



I don't want my team to be handicapped by a horrible champion or bad player, therefore I'm labled a "griefer"?

I have 16 leaves out of 469 games, most of which were before I knew alt+f4 did not put a mark on you, and a couple from getting d/c'd right before the game ends.

I never surrender, and I don't like giving up in general. And to me going in with 1-2 horribad champion/players IS giving up, because at that point I'm saying "IDC if I win or not, I just want to see everyone try their best ^_^" And that's not me. This isn't everyone gets a trophy group, hug afterwards, and shake hands. This is one team gets Victory! with IP and the other gets 50IP and called noob******s.


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Malak al Maut

Senior Member

01-27-2010

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coronaas:
i was sivir and my team picked Malphite/anivia/karthus/Taric

i suggested picking another phys dps champ to push/carry

malphite switched to ashe

O_O


You should have told bird or lich to pick a hard carry like tristana.


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TriggerSAD

Senior Member

01-27-2010

The only time I que dodged is when my friends come online and the send me a message to play, ofcourse I rather play with them then a bunch of strangers so I leave. 240 games still, 0 leaves.

Other than that I have never left, even if we had a really bad team composition, or I knew I was going to lose I rather take teh loss because I know someone will do something stupid so I can learn on what not do. Although 3-4 years of dota should have thought me that already, I still stick around.

but what really pisses me off is people not communicating before teh game even starts.

I personally try and talk to them, and even then most of them dont say one word, pick their hero comboniation and dont say a thing, probably alt tab and come back in or something.

And even if their are their is such a person who will talk and change, they are the ones that dont need changing, like tanks. I find the most people who play tanks know what the **** their doing, and they can play many types of heroes, but others who player dmg dealers dont want to change their hero or dont give two-tidbits about team composition.

All in all, what im getting at is, matchmaking leads itself to people not working as a team but the individual.


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KeitMacheen

Senior Member

01-27-2010

Queue dodging because you think a guy on ur team is bad should only be done if you have never played a bad game. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Clearly, if you have played with them before, and they are being match made with you again they roughly as good at the game as you are. Everyone has bad games.


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GodwinGrech

Senior Member

01-27-2010

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KeitMacheen:
Queue dodging because you think a guy on ur team is bad should only be done if you have never played a bad game. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Clearly, if you have played with them before, and they are being match made with you again they roughly as good at the game as you are. Everyone has bad games.


people who use bad builds dont qualify as having a bad game, because they fail every game. players who fail to adapt to the enemy teams strategy are also bad (eg keep walking into the same trap)


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CarbunkleFlux

Senior Member

01-27-2010

Queue dodging (as in, arbitrarily exiting the queue to avoid playing sucky teams/games) is pretty bad. It wastes everyone's time. It screws with the matchmaking by giving an inconsistent streak. And especially, cherry picking games isn't particularly fair.

Don't want to play with idiots? Go premade.
Don't want to play with jerks? Go premade.
Can't stand noobs? Go premade!

Riot is eventually going to make the ignore list work on match making last I recall hearing, so there really isn't much of an excuse to queue dodge. You have options that cater to your needs. If you solo queue, then you have to accept that you're playing online with strangers who have no obligation to you whatsoever and might not be very good at the game.

This isn't a problem with League of Legends, it's a fact of online play in general.

I'm all for legitimate reasons to leave champion select. Not queue dodging, though.


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KeitMacheen

Senior Member

01-27-2010

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GodwinGrech:
people who use bad builds dont qualify as having a bad game, because they fail every game. players who fail to adapt to the enemy teams strategy are also bad (eg keep walking into the same trap)


If you are so superior then why are you being match made together AGAIN? Maybe your opinion of "a good build" is not my opinion of "a good build." If they "fail every game" then in order for you to be match made together more than once then you must fail enough to have similar ELO.


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Onlyashadow

Senior Member

01-27-2010

I'm noticing a pattern of:

Player A: I don't like playing with bad players
Player B: Hey **** you, bad players have a right to play
Player A: Yeah, I just don't want them to play with ME
Player B: I'LL... THEY'LL PLAY WITH YOU IF THEY WANT
Player A: No they won't alt+f4
Player B: YOU HAVE OFFENDED MY GOD, DEATH WILL BE SWIFT


Can player B (queue dodging protesters) leave the players who want to WIN alone? Why don't all you keyboard licking bads make your own premades so you can have fun without queue dodgers?


WANT TO AVOID QUEUE DODGERS? GO PREMADE.


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Onlyashadow

Senior Member

01-27-2010

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carbunkle:
queue dodging (as in, arbitrarily exiting the queue to avoid playing sucky teams/games) is pretty bad. It wastes everyone's time. It screws with the matchmaking by giving an inconsistent streak. And especially, cherry picking games isn't particularly fair.


go premade crybaby


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Beklynn

Senior Member

01-27-2010

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Onlyashadow:
go premade crybaby

Wouldn't going pre-made solve the issues you are queue dodging? It seems like queue dodging is saying "I want good team mates and a quality game, but am unwilling to take the premade penalty because then I lose"

Really queue dodging ends up being premade adjustment dodging.