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RIP Cass

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JingledBells

Senior Member

09-14-2014

Seriously the changes to her are just awful right now.

400 stacks is nearly impossible.
Q having a longer cooldown, screws her ability to use Twin Fang
Q having a longer delay.
W being so weak.
E only restoring mana on a unit kill, she can't trade without going OOM now instantly.
R gives no stacks. . . .

She's not a poison champ anymore. . .


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Void Lissandra

Senior Member

09-14-2014

You can solo baron at 400 stacks though with 1000 AP.

I mean yeah, her W is legitimately useless, but now she's all about that Q + E life.


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LokiTehCat

Senior Member

09-14-2014

"its okay guys, we decreased all her bases and her AP ratios on every ability for a 0.5 ap ratio increase on her E at level 9! Isn't that just amazing?"


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The Scyphozoa

Senior Member

09-14-2014

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JingledBells:
400 stacks is nearly impossible.

Landing a Q on a champion gives you 3 stacks. That sounds pretty good to me.
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Q having a longer cooldown, screws her ability to use Twin Fang

That's what W is for.
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Q having a longer delay.

It doesn't.
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W being so weak.

Pretty sure it wasn't meant for damage in the first place, but now everything else about it is better.
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E only restoring mana on a unit kill, she can't trade without going OOM now instantly.

Because her mana-restoring abilities were so much stronger before...
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R gives no stacks. . . .

In what world do you hit people with R and not ALSO hit them with Q/W?
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She's not a poison champ anymore. . .

And we all hope Teemo is next on the list. :^)


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JingledBells

Senior Member

09-14-2014

She relies on her Q now to open Twin Fang up, but they increased the cool down on it so you really can't open Twin Fang up nearly as much.

Not only that but W does the same amount of damage base as her Q only if they enemy is stupid enough to stand in it for the whole 7 seconds.


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Void Lissandra

Senior Member

09-14-2014

Quote:
JingledBells:
She relies on her Q now to open Twin Fang up, but they increased the cool down on it so you really can't open Twin Fang up nearly as much.

Not only that but W does the same amount of damage base as her Q only if they enemy is stupid enough to stand in it for the whole 7 seconds.


You use your W for slow/quick poison to open up into a Twin Fang spam.


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The Sterg

Senior Member

09-14-2014

Quote:
JingledBells:
Seriously the changes to her are just awful right now.

400 stacks is nearly impossible.
As somebody who always neglects my CS, no it isn't
Q having a longer cooldown, screws her ability to use Twin Fang
Doesn't matter as poison isn't her primary source of damage anymore. Given Twin Fang's massive buffs it can't always be spammable
Q having a longer delay.
See above
W being so weak.
See above. Its purpose to set up for E, not do damage on its own.
E only restoring mana on a unit kill, she can't trade without going OOM now instantly.
If you're having mana issues with her then just uninstall, I harass all day during laning and never went OOM
R gives no stacks. . . .
It would give a negligible amount of stacks at best

She's not a poison champ anymore. . .
Good

Are we done here?


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xJLx MCHammer

Senior Member

09-14-2014

Quote:
Void Lissandra:
You can solo baron at 400 stacks though with 1000 AP.

I mean yeah, her W is legitimately useless, but now she's all about that Q + E life.
I have 1200 ap last night, I tried soloing baron and no I want even close. Stop the lying


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JingledBells

Senior Member

09-14-2014

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The Scyphozoa:
Landing a Q on a champion gives you 3 stacks. That sounds pretty good to me.


That's like telling Nasus he can only get stacks by hitting a champion, but his isn't nearly as mana expensive as Cass's

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The Scyphozoa:
That's what W is for.


If they're stupid enough to stand in the poison, sure, but it has a MUCH longer cool down than Q.

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The Scyphozoa:
It doesn't.


Definitely feels like it.

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The Scyphozoa:
Pretty sure it wasn't meant for damage in the first place, but now everything else about it is better.


Stationary AoE that has a stupid long CD? It should deal damage, and not just be there for utility.

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The Scyphozoa:
Because her mana-restoring abilities were so much stronger before...


Her old passive let her claw at the enemy without going instantly OOM. Now she has to eat the whole cost of her abilities unless Twin Fang kills something. Kinda makes trading stupid costly.

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The Scyphozoa:
In what world do you hit people with R and not ALSO hit them with Q/W?


Not the point. You don't get multiple stacks for hitting some one with Q and W.



I was waiting for someone like you.


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Takazok

Senior Member

09-14-2014

Quote:
Void Lissandra:
You use your W for slow/quick poison to open up into a Twin Fang spam.


This. W is also great for poisoning minion waves for E last hits

She really needs her E cooldown to get fixed though. Until it is fixed, Cass got nerfed


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