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Dat Poonani

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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RedTube Madness:
maybe nerf her rocket jump reset



is that really the change you want?

a half assed tacky reset removal which fails to address most of the major problems Tristana poses... is not something id agree with


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Quepha

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Ripamon:
In my opinion, if neither of the below factors are changed, Tristana will remain overpowered.

Her range.

Her attack speed steroid.

Her 900 range jump.

but she has always had those things and most of the time she isn't overpowered. her current status only came because she got several buffs to her mana costs and riot shook up the adc itemization at the same time. neither of those things gave her range, an attack speed steroid, or a 900 range jump, they have been there the whole time.


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Dunkilius

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Critkeeper:
Give them access to another client, password protected independently for each proffesional player. If all of a sudden you get sporadic traffic using player X's password, then you can penalize that player for not keeping his password secure and then hand him a new one.

Or just tie the proffesional platform to the standard and pbe platforms, so that you can log in with one set of credentials the same way you'd log into the PBE with the same credentials you use for the standard platform.

Let pros scrim and play worlds on their patch and let us keep moving forward, keep iterating and improving the game with patches and feedback. Its absolutely idiotic to freeze the live game as it iterates to an ever increasingly better state just because "its too much trouble" to make a microsystem for pro's to play on an older patch.

EU and NA teams don't scream that much, they preffer soloq, it would work with Koreans but not with their LCS players.


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g07h4xf00

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Kvicksilver:
maybe you can buff some of the anti adc items like randuins

And Thornmail
And Frozen Heart
and Ninja Tabi


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vasheenomed

Senior Member

09-03-2014

have you considered considerably lowering her base attack speed and damage to very low... so that she is weak when her q is off and only strong when it is up, and then lowering the duration of her q so it's timing is meaningful?


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ScarecrowJames

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Zero LP:
I agree buff Ashe 2014

So buff other adcs so they are closer to being as strong as her?

Imo its Tristan's get a out of jail free cards. **** got bad engaged on *jump away*...oh my they getting close *ult* Someone dies from being kited and ulted due to insane attack speed and range....*Jump away*


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SaltyTeemo4Life

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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g07h4xf00:
And Thornmail
And Frozen Heart
and Ninja Tabi

I think it would be good idea if Thornmail had MS buff on it ofc for higher price. Kinda like AD version of FoN and it would actually help tanks and bruisers because riot nerfed randuins.


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Quepha

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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vasheenomed:
have you considered considerably lowering her base attack speed and damage to very low... so that she is weak when her q is off and only strong when it is up, and then lowering the duration of her q so it's timing is meaningful?

so just a straight up damage nerf? or are you also going to buff the strength of Q so it provides even more than 90% haste?


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Aristinn

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Ripamon:
they cant simply revert the changes.

Thats admitting a serious business failure.

That said, im really intrigued as to how theyre going to nerf Tristana

In my opinion, if neither of the below factors are changed, Tristana will remain overpowered.

Her range.

Her attack speed steroid.

Her 900 range jump.

It doesnt matter if they take away the reset on her W, she will still be extremely overpowered.

It doesnt matter if they give back her mana costs on her Q, she'll still be OP.

Riot is going to have to be creative with Tristana if they want to cater to their policy of keeping or buffing strengths while adding weaknesses.

They got it right with Lucian,(the second time around), and i trust them to get it right with Tristana.

(Please, dont allow OP champions to exist in their overpowered state for 10 patches. Even before the itemization changes hit live we knew she'd be the strongest champion in the game. Aren't you guys supposed to be ahead of the curve and rebalance champions accordingly? )


Like her base stats! Gut that **** to Vayne levels as a tradeoff for the similarly ridiculous late game they both have. Why doe she have to get better base stats than Vayne WHILE being a safer champion?


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g07h4xf00

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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SaltyTeemo4Life:
I think it would be good idea if Thornmail had MS buff on it ofc for higher price. Kinda like AD version of FoN and it would actually help tanks and bruisers because riot nerfed randuins.

Funfact: Tanks are the only roles in the game that do not have a bonus % movespeed item. Literally every role has them now. They should just bring back FoN though so we can at least have MR item that aren't shitty either.