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@GhostCrawler

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Zero LP

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Ghostcrawler:
I said: To clarify, she needs some sort of weakness. If we just lower her damage or something, players may just switch from her to Kog or someone which just substitutes one dominant ADC for another. Ideally we'd like to give her some trade-offs so that you can choose her for her strengths or avoid her because of her weaknesses.

You said: Remember when you said the whack a mole strategy was something you were trying to steer away from? Yet you just keep doing it.

I think we are saying the same thing.



I agree buff Ashe 2014


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Latitoast

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Ghostcrawler:
Yeah, she needs nerfing. Realistically it is unlikely to happen before worlds. We like for those matches to take place on as stable a build as possible that has been thoroughly tested, so even very good changes can be ultimately risky. We also think it's reasonable for the players to expect that numbers won't go changing wildly right in the middle of worlds.

To clarify, she needs some sort of weakness. If we just lower her damage or something, players may just switch from her to Kog or someone which just substitutes one dominant ADC for another. Ideally we'd like to give her some trade-offs so that you can choose her for her strengths or avoid her because of her weaknesses.

If you need to give her weaknesses remove all of her self-peel

she has the longest range of any adc besides an ulting twitch, why does she need a resetting jump and a knock back?

she should be capable of putting out lots of damage from a safe range like any adc should, but the fact that even if you do get on her she'll jump away and/or knock you away from her


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Ghostcrawler

Lead Game Designer

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09-03-2014

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It sucks that every worlds game is going to be decided by who gets trist but I guess that's how it has to be.


As a few other players have pointed out, she isn't as popular in Korea.


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Fisherman Fizz

Senior Member

09-03-2014

How do you guys handle balance when one champion is viewed totally differently in some regions than in others?


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g07h4xf00

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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As a few other players have pointed out, she isn't as popular in Korea.
I mean, it's still no excuse for delaying changes. Worlds last year was all about Ezreal vs Corki this year it will be all about Trist vs Kog

Is that truly the international tournament Riot wants? Every year only a couple of viable champions per role?


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Zero LP

Senior Member

09-03-2014

Are the Koreans playing Ashe


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Gerrikk

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Ghostcrawler:
As a few other players have pointed out, she isn't as popular in Korea.

Eh, what do they know?

Not like that is where everyone goes to try to learn from or anything.


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Dunkilius

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Ghostcrawler:
I said: To clarify, she needs some sort of weakness. If we just lower her damage or something, players may just switch from her to Kog or someone which just substitutes one dominant ADC for another. Ideally we'd like to give her some trade-offs so that you can choose her for her strengths or avoid her because of her weaknesses.

You said: Remember when you said the whack a mole strategy was something you were trying to steer away from? Yet you just keep doing it.

I think we are saying the same thing.

You see its because you overbuffed adc class, nerf one and the other will take it place.

All classes was close in power before that *sorry for my language* retarded ADC buffs and nerfs to assasins and bruisers the ones that supposed to prevent adcs from being OP.

Just admit it that it was a failure and revert that unnecessary buffs to ADC's itemization you guys did few patches ago.


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Quepha

Senior Member

09-03-2014

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Latitoast:
she has the longest range of any adc besides an ulting twitch, why does she need a resetting jump and a knock back?

kog'maw and jinx.


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Vortex IV

Recruiter

09-03-2014

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Ghostcrawler:
I said: To clarify, she needs some sort of weakness. If we just lower her damage or something, players may just switch from her to Kog or someone which just substitutes one dominant ADC for another. Ideally we'd like to give her some trade-offs so that you can choose her for her strengths or avoid her because of her weaknesses.

You said: Remember when you said the whack a mole strategy was something you were trying to steer away from? Yet you just keep doing it.

I think we are saying the same thing.

Not really, i'm saying bring the others up, you're still whacking the standout down.