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Do people REALLY think Islam is a Religion of Peace?

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Keppa The God

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08-17-2014

People always forget the Crusades.


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Impoa

Senior Member

08-17-2014

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You did in the name of oil. Don't think it was out of the kidness of Bush's heart


I lol'd

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Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them


...That is not an explicit command to kill homosexuals, back then homosexuality was considered an abomination yes, and many people shunned those types or joined them. This is the old testament, and Christianity does not revolved around it as it's core value. This is basically an ancient way of saying "a pedophile who r4pes a child will be punished" that's obvious. That is a justice system. If ya don't wanna be cut up, then don't do shyt like sleep with an animal or commit adultery etc etc.


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Axel DC

Member

08-17-2014

Christianity is the most violent religion of all! That's why it's so successful.

The Christian crusades? They killed 2 million

Spanish Inquisition 3 million

And this is back in the day when there wasn't that many people (relative to today's population)

Those would be the biggest instances of Christian atrocities, but there's been countless other instances where people are killed by the thousands in the name of Christianity...

Yet the bible clearly says don't kill people, same with the Quran.


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Ahris

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08-17-2014

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Impoa:
It's spelled pope for one, but you have a point. The real problem back then (still a bit of a problem today), was that people blindly believed what the Pope said (Pope Urban at the time), so with that amount of power, anyone can just say "go on a crusade, get gold, get land, get the ladies etc". As to the pope being blackmailed or forced into something?

The pope was of high power back then, (remember fear of excommunication) so almost no one challenged his authority.


What is the point of Pope if his ideas are meaningless? Pope is supposed to be the one who gets message from god and spread it. If such Pope exists, being driven by their emotions, no one can trust them.

If Pope's saying will be denied by people saying it is not right, when Pope was told by god, who will receive the punishment? The Pope is an symbol of Christianity. What he says about the religion are told to him by god.

This is why there can't be any "Pope" thing in any religion.


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Impoa

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08-17-2014

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Christianity is the most violent religion of all! That's why it's so successful.

The Christian crusades? They killed 2 million

Spanish Inquisition 3 million

And this is back in the day when there wasn't that many people (relative to today's population)

Those would be the biggest instances of Christian atrocities, but there's been countless other instances where people are killed by the thousands in the name of Christianity...

Yet the bible clearly says don't kill people, same with the Quran.


-_____- I have explained this too many times, the crusades were not religiously sponsored. That is an amaeteur claim! The catholic (catholic church...not christian) was horrible corrupted and impacted the Crusades politically. There was no religious gain in this, in fact, you could "buy" your way into Heaven by bribing the pope. None of what happened during that century lines up with Christian doctrine when all they did was pillage for gold "in the name of God"

That's like having buttsecks with your gay partner and saying #nohomo "and it's all gud mang", that's what they did, they just slapped a banner of "religion" on their crusades and suddenly it was justified and in the name of God


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Ahris

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08-17-2014

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OMGSWAGZ:
Christianity is the most violent religion of all! That's why it's so successful.

The Christian crusades? They killed 2 million

Spanish Inquisition 3 million

And this is back in the day when there wasn't that many people (relative to today's population)

Those would be the biggest instances of Christian atrocities, but there's been countless other instances where people are killed by the thousands in the name of Christianity...

Yet the bible clearly says don't kill people, same with the Quran.


It is forbidden to kill people yes in Islam and you will be punished for doing so. However if someone is trying to kill you, you can kill him whether he/she is Muslim or not.

In war you are allowed to kill.


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Emperor Veigar

Senior Member

08-17-2014

sorry, OP is pretty spot-on


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C9 MonkeyD Luffy

Senior Member

08-17-2014

Crusades weren't inherently religious in nature. They just got the "blessing" of the catholic church so that popular opinion would support the crusades. In the end, they were wars for land, just like any other war of its time. The purpose of the crusades was not to slaughter anyone who was not a Christian, whereas the purpose of terror attacks is to slaughter anyone who is not a Muslim.


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freepointzs

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08-17-2014

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Ahris:
It is forbidden to kill people yes in Islam and you will be punished for doing so. However if someone is trying to kill you, you can kill him whether he/she is Muslim or not.

In war you are allowed to kill.


dude I have read the koran. That is pure BS. There are constant commands towards muslims to eliminate and kill every non-muslim on the planet.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


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Hopeslayer357

Member

08-17-2014

You really need to cite sources to substantiate your claims.

Was this done by a 5 year old? While I agree, after studying it myself, that Islam is not a religion of peace, you really need to back up your "facts" by factually citing your sources.