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Counter to malz bot

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Koravel

Senior Member

07-30-2014

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Ekis the Seraph:
QSS, eat his face off.

Play Diana. Win.


Diana is no longer a counter to AD Malz, at least. The counter runs almost the opposite direction.


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Redeemed In Fire

Senior Member

07-30-2014

Syndra is the only thing that will reliably beat AD and AP malz, and that's from having a cone AoE sona ult on a basic ability. Isn't having 2 and a half ultimates fun?


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Rebonack

Senior Member

07-30-2014

If you can match Malz' push he really isn't that much of a threat since he has no way to really engage on you. The best bet against Malz is to just grab another great pusher and stalemate him. Then call for ganks, because the guy is serious gank-bait.


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Koravel

Senior Member

07-30-2014

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Redeemed In Fire:
Syndra is the only thing that will reliably beat AD and AP malz, and that's from having a cone AoE sona ult on a basic ability. Isn't having 2 and a half ultimates fun?


Not at all true.

Syndra is the only champion that can beat AD+AP Malz that a non-skilled player can use. There are several AD+AP counters that exist, they simply require more skill than Syndra does.


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Koravel

Senior Member

07-30-2014

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Rebonack:
If you can match Malz' push he really isn't that much of a threat since he has no way to really engage on you. The best bet against Malz is to just grab another great pusher and stalemate him. Then call for ganks, because the guy is serious gank-bait.


AP Malz with a flash can engage on you.

AD Malz... very very difficult to match his push, and also can 1v2 come mid-game.


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Redeemed In Fire

Senior Member

07-30-2014

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Koravel:
Not at all true.

Syndra is the only champion that can beat AD+AP Malz that a non-skilled player can use. There are several AD+AP counters that exist, they simply require more skill than Syndra does.

I did say the word reliably, no?


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Koravel

Senior Member

07-30-2014

So reliably means "a hard enough counter pick that a bad player can beat a good one with it?"


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Kholdstare13

Senior Member

07-30-2014

Vi is probably the hardest counter that goes well against both types of Malz.


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Koravel

Senior Member

07-30-2014

Lol, no. Vi will get completely eaten alive by AD Malzahar. The counter is the other way, if anything.

She would have a very rough time with AP Malz as well, until she got QSS.


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wolferer

Senior Member

07-30-2014

Noctune will beat up AP malz pretty hard. He will force AD malz to buy an incredible amount of armor, at which point you can lane swap or something.

Malz is extremely weak to ganks early on. Get a teammate to sit on his face.