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AMAM - Competitive High MMR ARAM Tier List

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What is a Wolf

Senior Member

07-27-2014

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Kolos1001:
Cool story bro I'm closer to 1900. Keep lowering your credibility.

That's still not high mmr D:
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FaRmErX:
how do i check my MMR.

You can use http://quickfind.kassad.in/ or http://www.summoning.net/ while you are in loading screen/game, and it gives you the avg mmr of your team.


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FaRmErX

Junior Member

07-27-2014

wow im worse than i thought. much much worse


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Kolos1001

Senior Member

07-27-2014

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What is a Wolf:
That's still not high mmr D:

You can use http://quickfind.kassad.in/ or http://www.summoning.net/ while you are in loading screen/game, and it gives you the avg mmr of your team.



Yea I don't dodge enough and I'm only missing a few champs from my pool.

Also yi might not be top tier "OP" but he is definitely above C rank. Being able to wave clear quickly and have his own sustain is enough to put him higher on that alone. Same with nasus.


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What is a Wolf

Senior Member

07-27-2014

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Kolos1001:
Yea I don't dodge enough and I'm only missing a few champs from my pool.

Also yi might not be top tier "OP" but he is definitely above C rank. Being able to wave clear quickly and have his own sustain is enough to put him higher on that alone. Same with nasus.

In order to bump up a champion to a higher rank, we must first compare it to the champions in the same rank. Every single AD champion in B tier are either ranged or safer assassins. It's true that Yi has waveclear and self-heal, but he remains an auto-attacker that is melee that has to fully commit when he goes in. That's easily shut down by like 75% of the champion pool. He's only good when his team is ahead and when you can cut through people like cake.

The reason why Yi is in C tier isn't because "hes a bad champion", it's simply because he isn't as good as the champs in the tier above. At the end of the day, we could probably bump him up, but just because he's worse than the champs above him, he would still be the worse of B tier. There's not much difference between the worse of B tier and the King of C tier to be honest.


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Kolos1001

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07-27-2014

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What is a Wolf:
In order to bump up a champion to a higher rank, we must first compare it to the champions in the same rank. Every single AD champion in B tier are either ranged or safer assassins. It's true that Yi has waveclear and self-heal, but he remains an auto-attacker that is melee that has to fully commit when he goes in. That's easily shut down by like 75% of the champion pool. He's only good when his team is ahead and when you can cut through people like cake.

The reason why Yi is in C tier isn't because "hes a bad champion", it's simply because he isn't as good as the champs in the tier above.


You're undervaluing waveclear imo. That's all.


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What is a Wolf

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07-27-2014

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Kolos1001:
You're undervaluing waveclear imo. That's all.

Waveclear and sustain is all he does. His teamfight is poor, his counterplay against ranged is poor, he almost always lose to supports and even his waveclear isn't that safe.

If you look at the champs above his rank like Graves, Quinn, Talon, Zed, Twitch, Corki, Kha'Zix they all have waveclear as well. They're just slightly safer and they all perform better than Yi when your team is behind. Respectfully, taking all your arguments into consideration, I see no reason to bump him up.


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Kolos1001

Senior Member

07-27-2014

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What is a Wolf:
Waveclear and sustain is all he does. His teamfight is poor, his counterplay against ranged is poor, he almost always lose to supports and even his waveclear isn't that safe.

If you look at the champs above his rank like Graves, Quinn, Talon, Zed, Twitch, Corki, Kha'Zix they all have waveclear as well. They're just slightly safer and they all perform better than Yi when your team is behind. Respectfully, taking all your arguments into consideration, I see no reason to bump him up.


It's your list not mine you do what you want. I still think it's bad though.


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What is a Wolf

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07-27-2014

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Kolos1001:
It's your list not mine you do what you want. I still think it's bad though.

You have stopped giving me arguments, what I supposed to make of this?

I don't understand how you could think a list is "bad" because you don't agree with the position of 5 champs out of the 116. If I bumped up those 5 champions, would you automatically say the list is now good? Doesn't make much sense.

EDIT: I just realized from your previous (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4681663) threads (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4678767) that you show signs of toxic attitude. Taking you seriously was the first mistake I've made. The second was making sure the troll was well fed after you've shown sign all you wanted was to fight aimlessly, not arguing.


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Kolos1001

Senior Member

07-27-2014

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What is a Wolf:
You have stopped giving me arguments, what I supposed to make of this?

I don't understand how you could think a list is "bad" because you don't agree with the position of 5 champs out of the 116. If I bumped up those 5 champions, would you automatically say the list is now good? Doesn't make much sense.

EDIT: I just realized from your previous (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4681663) threads (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4678767) that you show signs of toxic attitude. Taking you seriously was the first mistake I've made. The second was making sure the troll was well fed after you've shown sign all you wanted was to fight aimlessly, not arguing.


Well I don't want to sit through and go over the 100+ champs individually. Such bad placement puts the whole thing into question. If stating my opinion on matters is trolling then I'm ok with that. If no one speaks up nothing improves.

You're pretty toxic yourself with posting other people's stats on a public forum. Not to mention the whole "I'm better than you so nothing you say matters" attitude.


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GrosPigeon

Senior Member

07-27-2014

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Kolos1001:
Horrible list lol. Nasus/swain/fizz/yi/trynd

Wow...just wow.
Sorry, this is a competitive tier list for high level play. I'm sure in your mmr Mister Yi is considered OP .