The Karthus Q bug (What it REALLY WAS)--it was NOT 40% CDR.

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Aiwendil

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06-09-2014

Trisexual, me (Just Bring It) and Russl actually figured out what was actually happening.
It was not a bug--rather, a delay not being implemented when the VU went live.

Before the VU, for the last 4 years, Karthus had a "raw" 1.2 second Cd on his Q.
What this meant was, it was more like (with 0.95 (5% CDR) second CDR with mastery); 1.2 x 0.8=9.6 second cd.

The real CD was 1.2 seconds. thus you could land at most 8 Q's every 10 seconds. If you read the description of his Q. "After a short delay..."

When the VU went live, there was NO delay after throwing a Q. What that meant was, you could land TEN Q's in 10 seconds (Russl tested this in a custom). There was no "casting delay" on it anymore.
There was NO 40% CDR and there never was. 40% CDR meant you would have a 0.6 second CD and could throw 10 Q's in 7 seconds. Not possible.

This was reverted sometime today so once again there is a delay.

You can prove this by LOOKING AT THE CLIENT. The Q now actually starts at 2 when you cast it, then goes to 1 then milliseconds, since there is no 1.1+ millisecond countdown on the skill. So the TRUE cd is 1.2 seconds again.

That's why the counter starts at 2 (since it won't show 1.2).


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Sweagen

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06-09-2014

can u please explain this but in like 2 easy sentences for stupid people like me


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Akali is SO HOT

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06-09-2014

Before the counter would start at 0.6 so yeah it was 40% CDR.


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Rockman

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06-09-2014

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Originally Posted by Sweagen View Post
can u please explain this but in like 2 easy sentences for stupid people like me
Karthus Q has a cast time before going on CD. They didn't have it that way when they released the VU. There ya go.


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Aiwendil

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06-09-2014

The real CD on Q was 1.2 seconds.
They didn't add the delay when they made the VU. so people thought it was 40% CDR.
They readded the delay in the mini-patch (it was actually server-side as it went live without a client restart).

I don't know if this was 100% intentional. but try it in a custom. With 1.0 second CD (NO cdr mastery). you SHOULD be able to get 10 Q's in 10 seconds.

You won't be able to, because the CD is 1.2 seconds.

Something isn't working as fully intended..either the description of what the CD is supposed to be.


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Aiwendil

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06-09-2014

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Originally Posted by Akali is SO HOT View Post
Before the counter would start at 0.6 so yeah it was 40% CDR.
the counter never started at 6 except a few random times.
That wasn't the bug at all. That was a different bug.
When the counter actually started at 6. you could cast another Q BEFORE the first Q actually landed. But that was rare.

The bug we're talking about is there was no DELAY in Q.

Go make a custom. it says 1.0 second cd right? Use a stopwatch and try to cast 10 Qs in 10 seconds. You won't be able to.

The most you can do in 10 seconds, is eight Q's. Thus, 1.2 second CD as Trisexual proved.


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Uiraya

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06-09-2014

This is an awful lot of facts and numbers for a general discussion thread.
~Uiru


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06-09-2014

this is one damn nice QoL buff then


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Aiwendil

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06-09-2014

Yeah that Q no delay cast was freelo for awhile. Enjoyed it. Reminds me when karths Q had a permanent red buff attached to it LONG LONG AGO.


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TenSlashTen

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06-09-2014

oh so the VU removed the windup? lol wow.


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