@Riot, its time for the faceless mods to stop.

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Bad Slip Ons

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05-15-2014

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Originally Posted by Just Me Rule 34 View Post
We can wish, but everyone who knows Riot knows that consistent, quality moderation and player support are not their strong points.

Just like coding, game balance, keeping promises, and avoiding PR disasters are also not their strong points.
Sexy skins though, that's their forte.


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Just Me Rule 34

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05-15-2014

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Sexy skins though, that's their forte.
The only reason I'm still interested in League is because of the splash arts they make.

And the eventual fanart of it.


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BFNASmurf

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05-15-2014

I just like the game.

The community is terrible But there are some real nice gems here.

But besides that, the game is great.

Also, after over 2k invested in League, like... Yeah I ain't leaving soon >.>


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Samuel L Jaxx

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05-15-2014

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Is there any, any discussion at Riot about really hiring real moderators for these forums? I know there's the faceless ones we have already, but as a long-time poster(though not as long as a lot of people still) I really know that these forums can be downright disgusting at times. And it spikes too, right now it's pretty calm in terms of the porn/hentai posting, but there's a lot of smurfs going around right now too. If any of you Riot guys could bring this to someone who can actually do something about it please hear me out on some of the major things I'd like to point out about these forums, and how at least some of them can be fixed.
  • The mods are faceless, unaccountable, and abuse their power

Faceless-
In what universe is this a good idea? OK, I take that back, maybe on some smaller forums it would be, but really? Here? This is a really beehive forums, it's so busy, it's the most busy forum I know of for one single topic. "Ghost" mods are just dumb here, they really are, it's simply a bad idea for them to not be allowed or w/e to say or imply or.. anything! I've seen Riot address the forums only three times. 1: "Concerning Iaw" thread. 2: A thread I made about the FEK thread being moved to OT back when it was in GD. 3: A red editing a post into the FEK OP regarding their reasons to those still left wondering. Now, I've also had someone edit a post of mine once too, it felt like I'd seen a ghost(yes, pun) but I never knew if it was a mod(unlikely, was a small and random thing) or a Rioter(more likely). I can't recall the exact post, someone made a thread asking a question about the forums and I answered only 80% right, and I returned to find my post edited with the remainder of the answer edited into it in red, which only mods/Rioters could do back then. For me, this is a huge issue, and it's dumbfounding that nothing has been done.

Unaccountable-
This pretty much ties in with being "ghost mods." They don't have anyone watching, they don't have anyone telling them no, they don't have anyone pulling at their collar, they do what they want when they want. They just don't take it from nobody, when a mod gets PO'd stuff gets real. Threads with the slightest infractions are closed, threads addressed to mods are deleted, single posts are deleted. It gets wild and it feels like a dragon just woke up and just started burning the nearest village just 'cuz it got grumpy because a hobbi- wait, I won't go there. Anyways, they have no leash, they don't cool down until they deem they have punished the peasants enough. They have no higher command to say "What are ya doing?! There's nothing wrong with that thread!'

Abusive-
Yea I just said it, they can be really abusive at times. While I understand it must be frustrating having to deal with GD at times, it's really unprofessional and makes Riot look bad. Although they aren't Rioters 90% of the time, lots of people just think they're Riot, I've seen threads saying "@Riot" and discussion some recent forum thingy that happened.
  • Smurfs.. smurfs everywhere!

It's so easy to make a forum smurf, I even have a few for fun. Last I heard it takes only 40mins to get back to posting on the forums. Like. WTF is with that? Why bother even banning someone?! It's like saying "alright, now I know you just murdered someone, but I'm onlt gonna lock you up for a week." Like, why is lv.5 the "pass" level for posting? Please, lv.10 at the least for posting. Lv.5 players can post in the New Players forums, unless of course that place goes to hell with trolling. Another thing, you give lv.4(?) accounts a bit of free RP, and that's nice and all, but please, give it to them at some later level so people can't use it to smurf easier. Smurfs can be eliminated pretty easily, if you'd just step it up.
  • Hentai.. hentai everyfreakingwhere!

K, so, ya. I know a lot of you like it and all, but uh, go somewhere else. Like, just get out and take it with you. I'm not going to follow you to tell you to stop in the middle of your fapping session. Go ahead, I don't care. What I do care about is it being on GD. There's plenty of sites for LoL stuff all over, go post/view it there please. Anyways.. to the point I'd like to make to Riot... The mods are blatantly stupid when it comes to hentai/porn threads. Like, it's astounding how stupid they can really be. I'm sure if I wanted to dig some stuff up I'd be able to, and in fact SummonerManMatt actually did that for a while, went through GD and dug up old unclosed threads with stuff in them. Personally I think he should have just used a support ticket with those cases, because no one was viewing them anymore. But honestly Riot, neither this site nor this game is rated for sex or nudity. "Oh but the champions are all so sketchy!' Yes they are, there are also Victoria's Secret commercials on TV when just the news is going. This doesn't justify going all in and posting porn/hentai. As mentioned earlier, there are ways to stop this by better moderation and the killing of easy-made smurfs(some people smurfs just to post porn/hentai over and over again).
  • Downvotes have proven to be a bad idea with this community

Now this doesn't mean the concept is utter trash, but with a community like this, it is. It's gotten worse and worse, and by it I mean the various circlejerks of the forums, not just in GD. There's simply no good reason for them anymore, it's proven that this community supports toxicity when they deem it funny or of their opinion, they've proven they cannot be trusted with being mini-mods. And anyways we have all these smurfs and downvote bots, I've had posts receive a downvote before anyone could have even read the whole post before, just because someone scripted(or something, IDK the technicalities) to downvote me. Like Iaw said in his "farewell" thread, they do exist because there are obvious patterns to them sometimes. Some days my posts will just start with a downvote, and I don't mean randomly, there will be days where every single time I post it will almost instantly get downvoted. And by almost instantly I mean this: I hit reply, I refresh the page, and it's already been downvoted. Usually when I notice this I simply stop for a few hours and it will stop again. I'm not the only one too, I've seen other people just get hit by downvote bots on random days.
  • Hey, I wanna report this thread/post but, I can't!

There used to be a section under support tickets for "Report a Player" and I would use this for the forums. But that was taken out a while back.. and, who's idea was that exactly? And, why did everyone agree it was a good idea? Not only is this an issue for post/pre-game chat reports(because you guys can't record these automatically) but there's no form of contacting anyone at all for the forums. If I see porn/hentai posted, what am I supposed to do? No really, you tell me, what exactly am I supposed to do to help you guys delete it? 1: Make an "@Mods" thread? Nope, GD always downvotes those until their closed so the mods don't end up seeing them. 2: Send a support ticket under some other reason? No, because by the time they reply to it, the thread is already dead and had it's full run, or the mods somehow caught it. 3: Uhh, reply in the thread about it? You must be joking, that's worse than no.1. 4: JK there's no other means of reporting something on the forums... Seriously, these forums gets a heackload of traffic, and it's so easy for someone to slip something by, and never get noticed. "But then trolls would just spam a ton of reports to clog the system, and then slip stuff by then!" Yea, this is true, so, make it banable to spam illegitimate reports.
  • TL;DR and I'm tired of typing but probably forgot stuff...

Mods: they need to wisen-up, or be replaced.

Smurfs: raise the posting level requirement.

Porn/hentai spam: A collection of the other things will get rid of this.

Downvote system: it sucks, come up with something better like a lot of other forums have.

Report system.. wait, what report system!: Make a report system and find a way to manage it and make it effective please.



This is a huge post, and I know that, but it only shows how much I really want things to be cleared up. Please please please get people at Riot HQ discussing ways to improve these forums! I don't care if you throw out everything I said and come up with something different, but please find some solution to this mess! And just for you GD I'm not adding any anime .gif at the end of this, YW.
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Herpti

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05-15-2014

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This can happen on occasion. For instance, if you post multiple threads with links to porn, viruses, or keyloggers they will forward that **** to me. When they do, I work with our Player Support team to determine whether or not we should be penalizing you in-game as well. If it's severe enough, we lay down the banhammer hard.

We're currently drafting new rules that make clear the things you can do in the forums to lose your in-game account. You can expect to see those soon.

Sure.
Pardon my intrusion, but I don't know what exactly to call these things you post on the front page, but if you have a gander at the comments, you can find multiple things on your naughty list, like phishing, pyramid, spambots, spam, sometimes even porn and whatnot.

Examples:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/new...heart-freljord
http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/n...heart-freljord
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/ne...heart-freljord

I would love to have a chat with you Tamat, as I have extensive knowledge in your naughty list and my usual contact seems swamped.

This is part of what I base my analysis on.
#8588065


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UnstpblBronzodia

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05-15-2014

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So that's why I got instantly permabanned on a first ever offense on my other account for posting this picture.

**PICTURE REMOVED**
Oh wow, I was pretty sure this account was gonna get perma'd too.


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DarkvolcanReborn

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05-18-2014

lalala


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Better Ban Sona

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06-27-2014

Got linked to this thread again, hadn't seen those last few red posts. Might as well necro this for any other GD'ers who could use the information.


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Rule 34

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06-27-2014

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Got linked to this thread again, hadn't seen those last few red posts. Might as well necro this for any other GD'ers who couls use the information.
You're welcome


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Better Ban Sona

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06-27-2014

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You're welcome
I really hope this works lol.