Guinsoo is working on Fiora

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Meleti

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04-04-2014

Oh wow this is actually really cool. Jumping in and out is exactly why I love Lee Sin in lane, really excited to see how Fiora turns out now.


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prey2112

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04-04-2014

no, just no.


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longhair fox

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04-04-2014

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
snip
Be awesome and get more rage into your rageblade please.


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Lexinus

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04-04-2014

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Hell no


"she is an all in"
No. She is an all in-wait wtf where did she go why am i still receiving damage and cant attack her??!!?

She has a free zhonyas+alpha strike ult that does crazy damage.


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Critmaster Garen

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04-04-2014

also, i like what im seing with that experimental ult.


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KayTeezz

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04-04-2014

But... But... I liked swishing around with her ult and feeling like Juggernaut :C


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Dies to Wolves

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04-04-2014

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Awesome snip of snipness +5
oh my, thank you! I was kinda scared at first because Fiora is my favorite champion (and in fact, I disagree with you saying she's a ball of stats that mashes buttons), your post gave me hope. This sounds / looks / reads very very promising! I really like her current ult because I just its concept, loos, mechanics, everything (and Yurnero was my first dota hero!) but I can completely understand why you guys would want to change it, and the iteration you're teasing us with sounds REALLY ****ING AWESOME

Good job and thank you riot, you raised my hopes ^.^

edit: I HOPE it's only a skill update, not a visual update :< I absolutely love and adore her current look, PARTICULARLY her voice over, my favorite in LoL for sure


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Critmaster Garen

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04-04-2014

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But... But... I liked swishing around with her ult and feeling like Juggernaut :C
i would say 70% of her power was in that ult. im kind of sick of it being broken by stealth, zonyas, aoe cc, people walking into bushes, or made useless by barrier, exhaust and other debuffs.

she was supposed to be a melee adc, and played like a squishy assassin without escape. she was binary and a nieche pick at best.

after they got pretty good at making melee carries with yasuo, there is a good chance she will end up in a good spot.


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Ecclessian

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04-04-2014

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Hi guys. I'd just like to weigh in on what some of the Fiora goals are. The main problems we see with Fiora's current kit are that thematically, she doesn't deliver on the fantasy of being a skilled duelist/fencer, and mechanically, her game presence / play pattern / role doesn't line up with being a skilled duelist/fencer.

As far as the duelist fantasy goes, at least when I think of Fiora, I expect her to be extremely mobile but not just going in, she needs to be good at dancing in, out of, around and about combat. She should be about finding weaknesses in the opponent's play and finding the proper occasion to go on the attack. She shouldn't be about running in and bursting enemies down, she should be poking them down over time.

Mechanically speaking, I'd expect a duelist type champion to be mechanically intense. I expect opportunities to use my abilities at optimal times to counter out the enemy's champion. I want to have a lot to keep track of, but with clear success cases when I do well.

At the end of the day, live Fiora is a ball of stats with some untargetability thrown in; she pushes her buttons pretty much as fast as she can without a second thought, and she's also extremely snowballey. In short, she's bland with no cool opportunities to exchange gameplay between her and her lane opponent.

Some of the current goals including switching Fiora from an assassin to a melee DPS, and moving her lane from top to mid/jungle, and adding tons of 'outplay' functionality on her kit, as well as more mobility especially in terms of being able to disengage and re-engage at optimal times.

I can't share too much of exactly what the plans are for her kit, as I'm sure it's going to change tons during development, but I'll leave this here to hopefully stir up some excitement for our favorite rapier wielder. Also bear in mind this is an early, experimental Blade Waltz, and could certainly change drastically between now and remake launch time.

I also understand it's hard to understand exactly what this sample Blade Waltz does, given the lack of context on her basic spells... but hopefully your imaginations run wild
Welcome back, Guinsoo! I'm looking forward to your work!


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Titiln

Senior Member

04-04-2014

coulda been scruffy.

be glad