Rengar Thread of Bolas and Roaring

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AntiSkillshot

Senior Member

04-07-2014

Rengar's sitting at a 46% win rate. He's the 8th lowest in win rates.

GG, Scruffy. GG.

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Originally Posted by ShadeeFan View Post
There's still the issue with his E moving almost half as slow as a nidalee spear, being incredibly unreliable, and still doing almost no damage. Then there's the issue with his Q doing no damage. Then there's also the issue where they completely removed his splitpushing whenever his Q would barely scratch a tower anyway with how **** it is now.

There is also still no discussion at all on his splitpushing. He seems to be avoiding this topic like the plague. Sure, it doesn't need to be godlike, but it still needs to sort of exist and be decent in case he is completely falling behind.
Do you praise the sun?


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Mid Is A Feeder

Senior Member

04-07-2014

Skarner rework all over again..


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The Black Okami

Senior Member

04-07-2014

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He cant be better jungling than the old one. You believe your own lies. That's pathetic.


His attack speed on Q is gone and Q dmg is lowered. The numbers are all there. What are you smoking troll? gtfo. I bet scruffy didn't even need to pay this retardd.
Yes his early clears leave something to be desired but I find ganking with him infinitely better than the old Rengar even with the stupid mgs exclamation whenever you get close, he sticks way better than old Rengar without a doubt.


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ShadeeFan

Senior Member

04-07-2014

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Originally Posted by AntiSkillshot View Post
Rengar's sitting at a 46% win rate. He's the 8th lowest in win rates.

GG, Scruffy. GG.


Do you praise the sun?
Damn right I do. Much praising to be had.


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Trolosaurus

Senior Member

04-07-2014

You f*cked up


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Miko Ryukudo

Senior Member

04-07-2014

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Originally Posted by ShadeeFan View Post
There's still the issue with his E moving almost half as slow as a nidalee spear, being incredibly unreliable, and still doing no damage. Then there's the issue with his Q doing no damage. Then there's also the issue where they completely removed his splitpushing whenever his Q would barely scratch a tower anyway with how **** it is now.

There is also still no discussion at all on his splitpushing. He seems to be avoiding this topic like the plague. Sure, it doesn't need to be godlike, but it still needs to sort of exist and be decent in case he is completely falling behind.
He just said the Q is getting a damage buff a few minutes ago.

It's pretty obvious that they don't want him to be able to be an effective splitpusher. They removed that mechanic expressely so that he can not take towers faster than anyone can come back to lane without teleport.

Like Tryndamere, you ran the risk of leaving lane and he would push up and get some good slaps on the tower. In Rengars case, he could build CDR and just spam Q, while getting increasing amounts of attack speed. So if you were losing trades and had to back and heal with his minions pushing to the tower...you come back to lane with your tower almost half hp or worse unless your jungler is there to relieve the pressure. Tryndamere has to build attack speed and lots of it to take towers fast. All Rengar needed was a little CDR, his Q already had a ton of upfront damage and great scaling.

Rengar was simply too good at splitpushing, and I for one am glad that it is not as bad as it was before. Instead of getting tons of free attack speed and 3 second attack resets on Q, you have to itemise for splitpushing instead of running brutalizer and mobos and getting it practicaly for free


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bossmann1313

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04-07-2014

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You f*cked up
Telling Scruffy he screwed up isn't helping at all. He knows he messed up and is trying to fix it. Instead of blatantly criticizing him tell him what you want out of rengar.


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Rengar is life

Member

04-07-2014

Join in friends.

Scruffy.

Please.

Splitpushing discussion.

Please.


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Ololoshev

Member

04-07-2014

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Originally Posted by Miko Ryukudo View Post
He just said the Q is getting a damage buff a few minutes ago.

It's pretty obvious that they don't want him to be able to be an effective splitpusher. They removed that mechanic expressely so that he can not take towers faster than anyone can come back to lane without teleport.

Like Tryndamere, you ran the risk of leaving lane and he would push up and get some good slaps on the tower. In Rengars case, he could build CDR and just spam Q, while getting increasing amounts of attack speed. So if you were losing trades and had to back and heal with his minions pushing to the tower...you come back to lane with your tower almost half hp or worse unless your jungler is there to relieve the pressure. Tryndamere has to build attack speed and lots of it to take towers fast. All Rengar needed was a little CDR, his Q already had a ton of upfront damage and great scaling.

Rengar was simply too good at splitpushing, and I for one am glad that it is not as bad as it was before. Instead of getting tons of free attack speed and 3 second attack resets on Q, you have to itemise for splitpushing instead of running brutalizer and mobos and getting it practicaly for free
You just described what Jax does, he also 1 vs 5's your team late game.


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ShadeeFan

Senior Member

04-07-2014

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Originally Posted by Miko Ryukudo View Post
He just said the Q is getting a damage buff a few minutes ago.

It's pretty obvious that they don't want him to be able to be an effective splitpusher. They removed that mechanic expressely so that he can not take towers faster than anyone can come back to lane without teleport.

Like Tryndamere, you ran the risk of leaving lane and he would push up and get some good slaps on the tower. In Rengars case, he could build CDR and just spam Q, while getting increasing amounts of attack speed. So if you were losing trades and had to back and heal with his minions pushing to the tower...you come back to lane with your tower almost half hp or worse unless your jungler is there to relieve the pressure. Tryndamere has to build attack speed and lots of it to take towers fast. All Rengar needed was a little CDR, his Q already had a ton of upfront damage and great scaling.

Rengar was simply too good at splitpushing, and I for one am glad that it is not as bad as it was before. Instead of getting tons of free attack speed and 3 second attack resets on Q, you have to itemise for splitpushing instead of running brutalizer and mobos and getting it practicaly for free
Reread my post please. I said Q was doing no damage in general. Scruffy said the Q buff was for early game, no guarantee that it will do damage late game. I also said that the splitpushing doesn't need to be anywhere near as good as before, but must sort of exist instead of him barely scratching the tower. Q not affecting the tower at all is a mistake. He has no pattern to fall back on anymore.