[2 Item Ideas] Karthus/Rylai's & Heim/Locket

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Digweedmancer

Junior Member

12-29-2009

So I found two hero-item pairings that've worked great so far. As I haven't seen these on guides before, I'm posting them here for feedback.

Karthus + Rylai's Scepter
-Lay waste slows for 35% = Caster's "Frozen Mallet"
-1 sec cooldown, spammable
-Defile slows for 15% = mini Nunu ult
-great HP for Karthus
-dunno how Ult is affected? (15% or 35%, on-cast or after-damage)

Heim + Innervating Locket
-normally Heim-players get Heal for turret clusters
-now rockets/ EMP heal turrets
-HP and mana = great buildup for fragile Heim

If you get a chance to test these out, let me know how they work for you.


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Ivandir

Senior Member

12-29-2009

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Originally Posted by Digweedmancer View Post
So I found two hero-item pairings that've worked great so far. As I haven't seen these on guides before, I'm posting them here for feedback.

Karthus + Rylai's Scepter
-Lay waste slows for 35% = Caster's "Frozen Mallet"
-1 sec cooldown, spammable
-Defile slows for 15% = mini Nunu ult
-great HP for Karthus
-dunno how Ult is affected? (15% or 35%, on-cast or after-damage)

Heim + Innervating Locket
-normally Heim-players get Heal for turret clusters
-now rockets/ EMP heal turrets
-HP and mana = great buildup for fragile Heim

If you get a chance to test these out, let me know how they work for you.
I have tried Rylai's with Karthus and it does help to slow them down using Defile but when you consider most Champions either carry Flash, Exhaust or Heal the overall effect is minimal. A 3145g cost doesn't help much either when for the same amount you could get Rod of Ages or Void Staff + Mejai's.


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Indecent

Member

12-29-2009

Lay waste is aoe so it slows for 15%.


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Basilisk9466

Senior Member

12-29-2009

I'm normally a big fan of RoA, but some champs are better than others for it, and I'd suggest Archangels + Rylai's instead of dual RoA as a core for Karthus. Any slow is a good slow, and with that kind of ability spam and the horror that is Defile, he's a pretty good caster to build slows on.

Regarding the Requiem/Rylai question, I'm pretty certain the slow would occur on casting. It's how Rylai works on Cho - the Rylai slow occurs immediately in the area on cast when you fire off Rupture, even though the Rupture effect itself has a delay.


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Digweedmancer

Junior Member

12-29-2009

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Regarding the Requiem/Rylai question, I'm pretty certain the slow would occur on casting. It's how Rylai works on Cho - the Rylai slow occurs immediately in the area on cast when you fire off Rupture, even though the Rupture effect itself has a delay.
I'm going to test that tonite. If that's true, that's truly horrifying. @.@


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Hubbz

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12-30-2009

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Heim + Innervating Locket
-normally Heim-players get Heal for turret clusters
-now rockets/ EMP heal turrets
-HP and mana = great buildup for fragile Heim
Maybe I just don't Heim like everyone else, but I'm not big fan of turrets early game. CDs are too great to really save your turrets with lockets. I think you're better off Rylai's Scepter for slow missiles and grenades if you're looking for HP/slow. I think you're better getting Rod of Ages with Archangel's to mana and mana -> AP stack with Heim.