Welcome to the Forum Archive!

Years of conversation fill a ton of digital pages, and we've kept all of it accessible to browse or copy over. Whether you're looking for reveal articles for older champions, or the first time that Rammus rolled into an "OK" thread, or anything in between, you can find it here. When you're finished, check out the boards to join in the latest League of Legends discussions.

GO TO BOARDS


Darkin Theories?

Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

SEC9HEX

Junior Member

11-23-2013

Okay I have an abstract Darkin theory for you. I think that the Darkin don't all revolve around the same visual archetype (they don't all look like Aatrox) I also think that there is a Darkin for each in-game role. With Aatrox's inception they revealed that there are 5 darkin. 3 of which (now including Aatrox) are not in hiding (but Aatrox is the only darkin who has revealed his ancestry.) I took at look at the champion pool hunting for clues. I narrowed it down to champions that really have no apparent reason for joining the league. My candidate for the mage Darkin is Brand. All we know about darkin (assuming they all share this quality with Aatrox) is that they often intervene in great conflicts. Brand exists only to set the world aflame and bring about ruin. In his lore it states that he is a creature of olden times and perhaps a casualty of the rune war. It does appear that he was unable to be killed and was instead imprisoned. Now maybe the concept of immortality isn't shared among the Darkin but they're all centuries upon centuries old and cannot be killed (Aatrox's passive...) Now you may ask how come Brand doesn't have a resurrection passive? Well maybe he does! From my perspective Brand's fire is immortal, he was unable to be killed and thus imprisoned but his flames continued to burn even in the frozen wastes of the freljord. (I believe this eternal flame concept is represented by the fact that his passive is a damage over time fire ability) Centering back on the lore, it states at the end that he uses his fire in the league for now... It seems to me, especially with Aatrox surfacing that the Darkin are planning to resurge- for whatever purpose. Now I know there are still two otehr darkin that not even the 3 darkin out in the open know of but I'll get to them later.

The second candidate for being a Darkin is Varus. Now I don't believe that Varus himself is a darkin, but I believe the corruption that consumed was an imprisoned darkin. This would fit with the immortal concept Darkin seem to possess. Unable to be killed a subdued Darkin must be imprisoned somehow. Just like Brand, this Darkin was bodiless and had to imbue itself upon a host. I do wonder why Varus was able to maintain his personality and Kegan(Kegan is Brand's Host) was not. Maybe it's because Varus was a disciplined guardian and has the mental resolve to withstand the corruption- I'm not sure. I do think that whatever Varus has fused with is a Darkin. If you look close at his model you can see that Varus's bow twitches and seemingly breathes when he draws it. This would fit right in with Aatrox's sword being alive. Which leads me to thinking that perhaps Aatrox isn't his body and all of his conscience lives in his sword. So in short Varus is not the darkin, but his body has been consumed by a darkim. another theory I have about varus maintaining his personality also revolves around the idea that the Darkin have long lost their true physical bodies and thus take on hosts via weapons their souls are attached to. It wouldn't be farfetched to say that the Darkin has taken up residence in Varus's bow and Varus has merely become bonded to the weapon and not the actual Darkin. If that is the case then we could assume that the reason Aatrox has shown up at some many battles is because he tempts warriors that are losing wars to take up his blade and then he fully consumes them and uses their body until it dies and he awaits the next great war to prey on. Assuming what Varus is connected to is a Darkin it would make sense that there are no tales of bow wielding Darkin since the corruption has been imprisoned in ionia for centuries upon centuries (just like there are no stories of Brand involving himself in great wars.)

Also if you're asking how come Brand doesn't need a weapon to attach himself to, I believe Brand has attached himself to the element of fire, perhaps a flame of True fire (much there is never melting True Ice, maybe there is True fire and Brand was able to bound his soul to it.)

My last theory is much shorter and very vague because It's only speculation and I didn't look into it very much. What if the ancient True Ice club Trundle wields is possessed by a Darkin? It is also known that Jax has connections to the freljord via Gragas (he told gragas where to find true ice.) Maybe Jax is speaking about a Darkin weapon when he talks about having a real weapon? Maybe Jax has survived being possessed by a Darkin? All the champions that I believe to be Darkin have no reason for joining the league or spotty ones at best, the exception being Varus who wants revenge on Noxus. Regarding Varus's revenge maybe each darkin has a different sphere that it embodies. We know Aatrox lives to turn the tide of battle, Brand lives to set the world into fiery ruin, perhaps the Darkin attached to Varus revels in vengeance?



Tell me what you think/poke any holes in my theory that you see I think this is legit but I want to be sure!


EDIT: I left something out accidentally! On Brand's page Ryze is listed as a Rival, he is the only non-frost oriented rival Brand has and I believe it's because of the large runic scroll on his back. It says in Brands lore that he may be a creature from the rune wars. My theory on Ryze's scroll in connection to the Darkin is that it possesses the power to imprison a subdued Darkin, and maybe as a flip side the scroll could also awaken the Darkin's true power? I don't know, there isn't a lot to be said about Ryze's scroll but as a rival to Brand/the darkin that's what I think it is.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

DannyBuddy

Member

11-26-2013

i could see jax as a darkin, varus is iffy, he was protecting a pond that he then absorbed to protect his home, was that pond darkin? and brand, i could see that to he was a spirit of fire in a cave so its possible, personally we need to find a new darkin to be confirmed to start estimating the others, we cant judge a species by one, i ALSO think baron nashor, the real one not the one on the rift, is a darkin, or was


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

WildPslyDuck

Member

11-26-2013

Maybe Hecarim is a Darkin? Since there are only 5 Darkin left, the spectral riders from his ult could be his soldiers, and he was the leader of a Darkin cavalry division.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

DannyBuddy

Member

11-26-2013

hecarim is stated to be undead, he is cavalry for the shiviring isles not for the darkin


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

cammarota11

Senior Member

11-27-2013

Quote:
DannyBuddy:
i could see jax as a darkin, varus is iffy, he was protecting a pond that he then absorbed to protect his home, was that pond darkin? and brand, i could see that to he was a spirit of fire in a cave so its possible, personally we need to find a new darkin to be confirmed to start estimating the others, we cant judge a species by one, i ALSO think baron nashor, the real one not the one on the rift, is a darkin, or was


He was protecting a temple that held a great power, not a pond.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

DannyBuddy

Member

11-27-2013

Quote:
cammarota11:
He was protecting a temple that held a great power, not a pond.


its been a while, i swear it said he dipped his bow in a pond he was protecting in a temple


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

SecretLore

Senior Member

11-27-2013

Overall there is a bit of a problem already and that is that the darkin were said to be winged creatures.
But ok,since your theory is that varus/brand/trundle are posessed that may not be important.

First of all I agree,that the darkin will most likely fill every role in the game,I think it was weird how riot talked about how good aatrox will be in the top lane,despite the fact that he could also be a viable jungler.It looked already a bit like they were forcing aatrox into the toplane(but well he is usually top lane,so maybe i am wrong here).
Also I think it is plausible that the darkin will look quite different from one another,however I think the darkin will be based on various demons,for example one will be an imp,another one a succubus,etc.

Now to your theories about darkin related champs:

I really doubt trundle is posessed by a darkin.Sure his club is magical,but it is made of true ice,just like ashes bow or sejuanis flail,which explains its magical powers.
Trundle himself has probably reasons to join the league(even though the lore doesn't specify them),i mean he wants political power for his troll tribe,he needs to support lissandra,he can prepare to fight agains the other tribes or maybe he just loves smashing faces(or with his ego he might enjoy being famous).


Varus and brand are possible,but the question is if the essence that corrupts varus is even a complete darkin or just a part of one,because so far it hasn't shown any signs of sentience.


Brand seems to know that he doesn't stand a chance against the world,but he still wants to burn things,so he joined the league.He could be a darkin,but he could be not,there is nothing speaking against it,but nothing speaking for it either.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

DannyBuddy

Member

11-27-2013

Quote:
SecretLore:
Overall there is a bit of a problem already and that is that the darkin were said to be winged creatures.
But ok,since your theory is that varus/brand/trundle are posessed that may not be important.

First of all I agree,that the darkin will most likely fill every role in the game,I think it was weird how riot talked about how good aatrox will be in the top lane,despite the fact that he could also be a viable jungler.It looked already a bit like they were forcing aatrox into the toplane(but well he is usually top lane,so maybe i am wrong here).
Also I think it is plausible that the darkin will look quite different from one another,however I think the darkin will be based on various demons,for example one will be an imp,another one a succubus,etc.

Now to your theories about darkin related champs:

I really doubt trundle is posessed by a darkin.Sure his club is magical,but it is made of true ice,just like ashes bow or sejuanis flail,which explains its magical powers.
Trundle himself has probably reasons to join the league(even though the lore doesn't specify them),i mean he wants political power for his troll tribe,he needs to support lissandra,he can prepare to fight agains the other tribes or maybe he just loves smashing faces(or with his ego he might enjoy being famous).


Varus and brand are possible,but the question is if the essence that corrupts varus is even a complete darkin or just a part of one,because so far it hasn't shown any signs of sentience.


Brand seems to know that he doesn't stand a chance against the world,but he still wants to burn things,so he joined the league.He could be a darkin,but he could be not,there is nothing speaking against it,but nothing speaking for it either.


and what about our theory about beatrice?


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

Haon450

Member

11-27-2013

Whenever I see these threads on who may be Darkin I think the same thing every time(by that i dont mean to be critical of the thread).

Darkin is NOT a title. It is a race. Like humans.

therefor I very firmly believe that most of the champions people say could be Darkin (Mord, Jax, Hec ect) can not be a darkin. No wings and not the same body build. While i know not all things of the same race looks the same they at least have something in common.

That and i would think that being one of the last 5 of a very powerful race would be mentioned in the lore of said champion.

I think that if we do(and most likely will) see another Darkin it will be a entirely new champion altogether. I myself am a big fan of Aatrox(you have no idea how sad the big nerf mad me) and would very disappointed if they just threw out a skin for current champions and called it a Darkin.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

DannyBuddy

Member

11-27-2013

Quote:
Haon450:
Whenever I see these threads on who may be Darkin I think the same thing every time(by that i dont mean to be critical of the thread).

Darkin is NOT a title. It is a race. Like humans.

therefor I very firmly believe that most of the champions people say could be Darkin (Mord, Jax, Hec ect) can not be a darkin. No wings and not the same body build. While i know not all things of the same race looks the same they at least have something in common.

That and i would think that being one of the last 5 of a very powerful race would be mentioned in the lore of said champion.

I think that if we do(and most likely will) see another Darkin it will be a entirely new champion altogether. I myself am a big fan of Aatrox(you have no idea how sad the big nerf mad me) and would very disappointed if they just threw out a skin for current champions and called it a Darkin.



but i doubt they all look the same, and act the same, a race veries in images, look at the asian decent, korean, japaness, chinese, indian, mongolion, all very diffirent, also they are suppose to be this amazing race of warriors, i think someone of them would find ways to fit in, or do something to blend in, or maybe like some said its something that devolps like with varus and his bow, or the strongest one i can think of is beatrice, and im not chaning my mind on that, beatrice is to perfect of a candidate