Rtg? Some kind of hack?

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MrsRittenhouse

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11-18-2013

sooo curious to know more about this.


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Kaboyas

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11-18-2013

Hopping on the bandwagon


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TeemoDatDude3

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11-18-2013

If anyone has checked his LoLKing the info checks out. One player in all 3 games

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/34022401#history

bottom 3 games if someone wants to grab a screen shot that'd be cool. I can't for some reason.


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Sisuwolf

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11-18-2013

Yeah there is definitely some hacked activity that goes on in Lol. Few months ago I had a similar experience. Wish Riot would tell us the truth instead of saying "must be a coincidence." Come on Riot, everyone knows there is no such thing as coincidence.

Anyway, on to my experience. Similar start. Dude in my game was very negative and I called him on it. Usually I just play and stay positive and my green badge shows that but we all have those games every once in a while. Anyways called this dude out on being an a-hole. Next thing I know he is spamming all chat with personal info(full name and other details) and all other kinds of stuff. I am very aware of not giving details about myself online. Nowhere have I ever used my full name on anything online except for facebook. And my facebook account has zero mention of LoL, and LoL account has zero mention of my facebook. IE I have never shared info relating the two together. Other than having a nearly inactive account on facebook I use absolutely zero other social media. Either way I haven't used facebook for over a year and the email address is different from my LoL account email address. There is literally zero chance of this dude getting that type of info on me without some illegal hacking involved. Later discovered a virus(pretty sure a keylogger) installed in my System32 files and installed on the exact same date as the day I played the game with this guy.

Anyone want to enlighten me on how this can happen?


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Spyrielle

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11-18-2013

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Originally Posted by Sisuwolf View Post
Yeah there is definitely some hacked activity that goes on in Lol. Few months ago I had a similar experience. Wish Riot would tell us the truth instead of saying "must be a coincidence." Come on Riot, everyone knows there is no such thing as coincidence.

Anyway, on to my experience. Similar start. Dude in my game was very negative and I called him on it. Usually I just play and stay positive and my green badge shows that but we all have those games every once in a while. Anyways called this dude out on being an a-hole. Next thing I know he is spamming all chat with personal info(full name and other details) and all other kinds of stuff. I am very aware of not giving details about myself online. Nowhere have I ever used my full name on anything online except for facebook. And my facebook account has zero mention of LoL, and LoL account has zero mention of my facebook. IE I have never shared info relating the two together. Other than having a nearly inactive account on facebook I use absolutely zero other social media. Either way I haven't used facebook for over a year and the email address is different from my LoL account email address. There is literally zero chance of this dude getting that type of info on me without some illegal hacking involved. Later discovered a virus(pretty sure a keylogger) installed in my System32 files and installed on the exact same date as the day I played the game with this guy.

Anyone want to enlighten me on how this can happen?
I got shivers from reading this....

At first I believed that ya'll were just overreacting to Vesh's response but now that I've read a little more I can say that his response is definitely not adequate. Kinda creeps me out.


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ZiPS

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11-18-2013

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I'm really sorry this happened to you. =(

We checked into it and it looks like it was actually just coincidence. Also don't worry, nobody is going to ban you :P. Looks like you guys had similar matchmaking values since you both lost the same games.


edit: it's possible that he was using a 3rd party program such as lolnotes and queuing up at the same time.
Hmm, so what you are saying is that some toxic player is used a third party program to enable even more toxic behavior. By the by, the odds of coincidentally being matched with the same player four times in a row are (as best I can tell with the limited tools available to players) astronomical. Add in a(n approximately) five minute wait between the third and fourth games and you have a clear case of a toxic player stalking someone else.

Vesh, how dare you attempt to sweep this incident under the rug with some (flimsy at best) "similar mmr" explanation. Your argument falls apart once you consider the 'coincidental' (as you would have us believe) five minute break for both players at the same time and the 'coincidence' that the toxic player predicted in the first game that he was going to follow Khenyas.

Is this how a Riot Player Relations Specialist acts? By dismissing a clear case of a toxic player going above (below?) and beyond by circumventing the matchmaking system using a third-party program with the expressed purpose to "make (Khenyas's) ranked life living hell". I am absolutely horrified by the idea that I could be in Khenyas shoes and Riot wouldn't do anything about it. An idea that your actions currently support.

At the very least Vesh, you could attempt to make us (the players) believe that you've considered the possibility that you are mistaken in your assessment and you've shown this thread to another Rioter. For example: why not forward this thread to someone in Player Support? Their job title leads me to believe that they would have access to more tools for supporting the issues that affect players than someone in Player Relations.


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Hidden Dragon

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11-18-2013

Lols, you are trying too hard man.


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SlitherySnakeSex

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Originally Posted by Vesh View Post
I'm really sorry this happened to you. =(

We checked into it and it looks like it was actually just coincidence. Also don't worry, nobody is going to ban you :P. Looks like you guys had similar matchmaking values since you both lost the same games.


edit: it's possible that he was using a 3rd party program such as lolnotes and queuing up at the same time.
The jig is up Vesh. We know you're supplying information to the man behind the RTG attacks and his followers. We know it's you giving information about when certain RTG attached players are going into the game.

We will apprehend you sir. We are going to storm your house and take you by force. This is our moment of reckoning you will fall. RTG WILL NOT PREVAIL SIR.


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firesflame4

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11-18-2013

bump


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Pvtsarge

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11-18-2013

Upon further investigation to OP's situation from my previous post, I found that OP was duoqueuing in his Jinx game, straight after the Malzahar game (http://quickfind.kassad.in/profile/na/Khenyas/ left-hand side). Quickfind only displays whether the player was duoqueuing, not with whom.

To check who he duo'd with in that Jinx game, I checked the quickfinds of the players other than PayShentZero in that game, I couldn't look up PayShentZero's match history directly because he had played too many games since. Fortunately the games for the other three players were still in the immediate match history ("ThugRife", "yangjutsu", "googalyboogaly"). Turns out none of the other three players in that match had the 'Duoqueuing' status in that particular game. Which means the OP was duoqueing with PayShentZero.

I think this can lead to one of three conclusions:

A. The quickfind system of detecting duo queues is faulty/broken/inaccurate. (Possible)
B. PayShentZero somehow manipulated the queueing system to force OP to unknowingly duoqueue with him. (Possible/Likely, but I've never heard of such an exploit)
C. Khenyas intentionally duoqueued with PayShentZero for one reason or another. (Possible, but unlikely in my opinion as he seems quite forthcoming in his details about this incident)

Note though that the game straight after the aforementioned duoqueue Jinx game is not classed as a duoqueue game (The Fizz game). Whatever the case I think a little more thorough check on the matchmaking for the Jinx game is warranted, if not for security but for community peace of mind.

Also, I'm 90% sure the Nattfari fellow is the same person as PayShentZero. Both post on the forums with the same kind of proper capitalization/grammar, they both seem to prefer the same champions from ranked stats (as well as other stats) and finally the dates of Nattfari being banned and PayShentZero creating his account match up relatively closely. As far as I can tell, Nattfari is the only one perpetrating the 'rtg' farce (besides the vague "rtg tagged members invading diamond game" incident).


Take the stuff I said with a grain of salt though, and don't start quoting me as gospel.