Maximum Riven was right

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Wolf383

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11-21-2013

The season 4 changes made Riven weaker overall, and now the GD QQers can move on to someone else.


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Aarongeddon

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11-21-2013

No we can't move on she's still in the champion pool.


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Jesus thy Lord

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11-21-2013

Riven still needs hard nerfs.

Manaless
Multiple AoE stuns
4 escape dashes
1 AD scaling shield

WTF? WHO DESIGNED THIS CHAMP


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Dynasty Ahri

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11-21-2013

Shyvana QQ is next.


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lojician

Senior Member

11-21-2013

Not saying this isn't true because I don't know, but the new offensive mastery tree looks amazing for riven. Why do you think this?


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AHeroNamedHawke

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11-21-2013

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Originally Posted by lojician View Post
Not saying this isn't true because I don't know, but the new offensive mastery tree looks amazing for riven. Why do you think this?
You have to wait 4 whole minutes to 100-0 your opponent now

Really sucks man


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Kadathan

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11-21-2013

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Not saying this isn't true because I don't know, but the new offensive mastery tree looks amazing for riven. Why do you think this?
^

Explain how she is weaker if you consider it the case, otherwise you're just trying to deflect attention off of a broken champ.


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oh hyung

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11-21-2013

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Not saying this isn't true because I don't know, but the new offensive mastery tree looks amazing for riven. Why do you think this?
If I had to guess I would say that the power increase isn't that large (or, worse, it might even be a nerf) from masteries because of how much armor pen got pulled out. Armor pen on riven is pretty important.
I haven't done the actual math on it all, though.


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Wolf383

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11-21-2013

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Not saying this isn't true because I don't know, but the new offensive mastery tree looks amazing for riven. Why do you think this?
Yes, the new mastery tree is good for her, but

1. Early snowballing has been nerfed hard, so red pot is a bad start now.
2. Supports get more gold, and can build CDR/Damage to help CC her more, and such
3. Junglers, the same as support.
4. Reduced death timers (This helps, and hurts her), before she got ahead really far, due to pushing the enemy out of lane (By killing them) With the reduced death timers, she'll be easier to stay caught up with if you're dying alot.
5. Stealth Champions (Rengar, Kha, etc) will beable to jump on her easier (She can't just pink ward to counter them) and in this, they can insta-gib her due to her building glass-cannon (Which she has to do to be relevant.)
6. Less ArPen in the masteries, which Riven needs early.

**EDIT: Downvoted for the truth..


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RexSaur

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11-21-2013

How exactly is riven weaker right now?

Really the only thing is that fb is worth less early on, but if you get fbed you're still gonna get **** on by riven.

New offensive masteries are a buff if anything for her.

Lel s4 changes will ''gut'' riven.


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