Introducing Team Builder

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Hexss

Senior Member

12-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Dazimor View Post
RIOT... Can't you at least release a basic version with minimal features. 90+ percent of us just want a 1 top, 1 mid, 2 bot(support and adc) and 1 jungler meta. Why you ask? Because people are getting into arguments, feeding, fighting over positions right now. RIOT is in some part responsible for the TRIBUNAL cases I judge. At least a basic version would help a bunch. Thankyou. May all our AFKer burn in the void.

This, just release a version of it. Im considering just playing pbe so i can avoid the drama of picking roles


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Shatterstone

Junior Member

12-16-2013

While this is a step in the right direction, i dont think it allows for team composition or for a person to make a change in character based on the other players choices. Will it also account for champs like heimerdinger being played top lane? I think an easier solution for this,is simply a role intentions button prior to actually picking champs. So rather than calling it and having people gang up on one player and say he didn't call something first, the server rather would determine who actually selected a role first based on lane intention choice. It could be set so it wont allow that lane choice to be picked after someone already has, or it just show according to the server who choose mid first, for example. players could then discuss what they are going to do. This could alleviate the no i picked it first argument by showing an actual time stamp of clicking a button. I think this would promote teamwork,better communication and team composition than just randomly filling spots from a queue. This as opposed to the first suggestion of locking in lanes would alleviate dodging queues. I post this because of my last normal queue experience where according to my screen i called my role first and then a line of text pops up that "shows" that the poster entered lobby first, and called mid first. this happened twice in a row, The first queue 4 people called mid, i was the third this guy was the second, and his little line of text "showed" he called first. The second is where the abuse started in the lobby when i called him out for using an add-on that seemed to in both queues to favor the person using it. Could have been lag on my end?, yeah it could have been. But twice in a row really, so whatever i played the champ i wanted to play and let them dig their own hole of coarse language and verbal abuse. Never playing anything but draft pick ever again. Call me a scrub , a moron, and many other things im none of them. I work with my teams because i like to win, but if your going to name call in the first 20 secs prepare for the troll. Doowen, was using the addon, and NeoŚngel was the most abusive, and yes i reported them as well, which im sure they reported me for whatever reason they deemed nessecary.


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R3d Anonymous

Senior Member

12-16-2013

How are you going to make this work in ranked, without ruining counterpicking? Maybe for ranked, you could make it so that you can't select a specific champion, but only a role, and once you have a team comp ready, you go into the draft pick select. That way, counterpicking is still a thing.


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Ro11MeAnotherJ

Senior Member

12-16-2013

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Originally Posted by Lyte View Post
I just want to take a moment to thank some of the Rioters who worked on this feature:
Robbypoo, RiotComplex, statuskwoh, RiotWorldPeace, RiotTantram, davin, btab, Miss Mecha Zero, RiotLobster, stopthief, Exekias, Amazoe, Scezumin, VonBurgermeister, Ryedan, RiotNeuroCat, RiotJayway, Taurendur, RiotLulu, Drevarius, RoamingNumeral, RiotSeb, DoctahWayne, D00m0.

If you see them around the forums or a future event, make sure to give them a fist-bump!

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Update!

Frequently Asked Questions:

1) Won't this enforce the meta?
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a) Here's an example of a crazy meta that was tried earlier in the day. Team Builder is all about introducing a new, cooperative Champion Select where players can agree to a strategy and team vision before entering a match. Players in Team Builder will be able to outline a strategy they are interested in playing, and the system will find teammates that share that vision. Feel like playing a double jungler strategy or want to send 5 players down the mid-lane? No problem. It might take longer to find 4 other players willing to try a crazy strategy but when you do, you'll know the entire team is bought in and you're going to have fun.

2) Will Team Builder replace other queues?
a) Team Builder is a complete re-design of Champion Select that was inspired by a lot of research on social dynamics and cooperation. Because we're going to iterate on it quite often with player feedback, we opted to create it as an independent queue first and not touch any of the existing queues. Depending on what we learn, we may adapt some or all of Team Builder into the existing queues.

3) Will I have long queue times if I want to play a popular role?
a) In our research, we were surprised that role preferences were pretty diverse. When we surveyed players and asked what their preferred role was, about 15% of players preferred playing Support, 14% of players preferred playing Jungle, and 5% of players were willing to fill any role.

We'll be keeping a very close eye on role popularity in Team Builder, but for now, it looks like there are players that are very happy to play the perceived least popular roles if there is a system like Team Builder in place to help create teams.

4) How can I play as a leader in Team Builder?
a) There are two flows in Team Builder. You can opt to be a leader of a group and define strategies for your team--this is usually the recommended path if you have a few premade friends and want to find a few strangers to fill out your team according to your desired composition.

You can also opt to be a solo player, choose a champion, role and position and ask the system to look for teams who are looking for your spec.
I hope this works, looks really good and and will help lower ranked players I hope. but if it doesn't seem to work out please just make a trade system where you assign us our roles in draft pick and then we trade if we want to and give us like 30 seconds after bans to ready up the trades ... just throwing it out there


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Samus Frost

Senior Member

12-16-2013

Can you guys at least make a beta test of what you have right now? This idea has been out there for months now and you have yet to even try it in the PBE what is taking this much time for such an idea? It would really help the people that would like to play with out all the arguments but we can't do that since there are clashing players all the time still.


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Valadous

Junior Member

12-16-2013

All I can say is finally, been playing heavily for a while now and it is so irritating how childish things can get when there is debate over who gets what position, this is the perfect solution for it. Also I feel it will encourage others to diversify for better cue times. Another suggestion I have would be to separate the lvl 30s into their own, non-ranked cues and separate levels 1-29 by tiers so a level 30 does not end up trouncing a level 20 something because of the advantage of full rune and mastery pages. I think every 4-5 levels for a tier is reasonable and would make the game more enjoyable. This system is similar to what the vast majority of MMOs have for their pvp set ups and as an avid MMO player it works out very well to separate the levels.


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VwV Cloud

Junior Member

12-17-2013

Does this force the players to be the said champions that they called pre-game though? What if my champion is banned and I have to go to a different lane? (I have a much bigger champion pool than that, but just wondering)


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Original RudeBoy

Senior Member

12-17-2013

need to get this in the game asap please!!!!!


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Fluffyknowsyou

Senior Member

12-17-2013

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Originally Posted by R3d Anonymous View Post
How are you going to make this work in ranked, without ruining counterpicking? Maybe for ranked, you could make it so that you can't select a specific champion, but only a role, and once you have a team comp ready, you go into the draft pick select. That way, counterpicking is still a thing.
Kind of tired of this tired worrying over counter picking. What riot has now is completely functionable and can retain counterpicking,but people are stupid.

People need teambuilder to play what they want.

People aren't worried about counter picking. They are worried about playing what champion they want, in a ranked environment.

If you can get millions of ******* to cooperate right now, we won't need teambuilder or any variant.


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EmpireScythe

Recruiter

12-17-2013

do it or i uninstall im tired of these que trolls t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t