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The Thread By Scooter Sparkle got deleted.

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Shiister

Senior Member

08-22-2013

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RoyalAtreyuX:
Of course. Gotta take our Freedom of Speech away, right? Silly Riot. Wonder how many law suits are going to happen from this.

Freedom of speech don't apply to companies, only governments.


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Shadow Merchant

Recruiter

08-22-2013

Someone made an account about Shiny rock and got banned v.v

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3796512

EDIT: the thread was closed now it's deleted.


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TryMucinex

Senior Member

08-22-2013

Guys, zMajin probably support Gem, look at his other post. Just ignore him. =o


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Bruttix

Junior Member

08-22-2013

I really hope Riot doesn't take a turn for the worse.


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Notalent

Senior Member

08-22-2013

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Zalithian:
Scooter's account banned. Threads about his ban closed. GG RIOT

Those threads deserved to be closed, honestly starting to suspect Scooter is another Xj9 smurf.

Not saying the original post deserved to be deleted...but Xj9 deserved his ban, and if Scooter was Xj9 than that forum account deserved to be banned.

Honestly my biggest problem with this whole movement against riot corruption is the connection to people who somehow think XJ9 deserves to have his punishment overturned, he did everything he was punished for, regardless of GEM's involvement.


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0xiDIzE

Member

08-22-2013

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WookieeCookie:
Naming and Shaming is against our Forum Policies.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2702857




If you have an issue with a particular player, feel free to write in a ticket directly to Player Support. We will not tolerate witch hunts on our boards.

That's kinda not what he was doing. At all. You also don't ban anyone for naming/shaming any other player. Why the special treatment?


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SenpaiPleaseDont

Member

08-22-2013

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WookieeCookie:
Naming and Shaming is against our Forum Policies.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2702857




If you have an issue with a particular player, feel free to write in a ticket directly to Player Support. We will not tolerate witch hunts on our boards.


"Go away applying our own rules fairly is too much work"


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Atrayen

Senior Member

08-22-2013

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Shiister:
Freedom of speech don't apply to companies, only governments.


Sure, to their employees. I believe we're their customers, not their employees. And I also believe this means that they should listen to US, not the other way around.


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Zodai

Member

08-22-2013

If you don't mind me asking,

What did the thread say?


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WookieeCookie

Player Support Lead -
Player Behavior

08-22-2013

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Jayarrrrr:
Oh joy, a red. Let the downthumbing commence. Just because a player's name was used doesn't mean they are calling out that particular player. That thread was more about how Riot handled the situation, not about the players themselves.

On a side note, we can't really call out jason, because he hacked so many people's accounts he doesn't have a single name.


Incorrect. The thread was directly demanding that a specific player be punished to satisfy a vocal minority on GD's thirst for vengeance.

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RoyalAtreyuX:
Not to, you know, call you out or anything but... with the number of threads on this particular issue popping up and the people calling you out, why not answer them instead of deleting it? You incite riots (haha punny) when you press the delete button...



We've already commented on the matter a little over a month ago. We have nothing more to say and no amount of gnashing of teeth and fake internet outrage will adjust our stance on the matter.


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Notalent:
People are being hacked, accounts violated, and a certain player has been implicated with evidence being shown SINCE Xj9 was removed from the community.

Can we at least have confirmation by Riot that an investigation is being launched?



Of course an investigation has started. And of course we're not going to comment on it publicly. This isn't mob justice.

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Quintessence:
Know what else is against the rules? Boosting, hacking, and being a jerk.



Agreed. Which is why those who do this end up punished. Complaining about it on GD won't help speed up the process.

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Str3SSed:
ura a fcking idiot, how 'bout do something about it you stupid *****. The forums are after you now, go ahead ban me, I have 6 other accounts i can troll you on, stupid noob.



Jeez. And you wonder why people don't comment on issue like this.


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Renegade Rook:
All we want from you guys is an answer about what you're going to do about the hacker/people who were encouraging it.
The hacker says you won't ban him because he knows the CEO of Riot and that a Riot employee is/was leaking info to him so that he could get into the accounts/take the accounts/edit posts on the forums etc etc, and he+the people who were encouraging him seemingly have not been banned.

It upsets us when all we want is answers and you guys just tell us to shut up. :\



They ALWAYS say they "know the CEO of the company". Come on dudes, don't be so gullible. The amount of silly conspiracy theories lately is just ridiculous.

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Poisonpowder:
Just out of curiosity, why is that where you've drawn the line, considering the sheer amount of spam, porn, and generally hateful topics that have been posted in the past 3 months?



I see this complaint a lot. You're assuming those players are not punished as well. Let's be real. Our forums are HUGE. There are quite a few things that get people banned on a daily basis including: "spam, porn, and generally hateful topics". Most likely they will continue to be posted and we will do our best to clean it up, but sometimes it will slip through. Regardless that doesn't excuse starting witch hunts, that's why It's ALL against the rules.

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MoonshineDawg:
But you tolerate gem hiring the hacker the made everyone change their passwords?



If you believe any of that then you should check any of the fillings you got recently. I heard the government is using them to track your every word and movement.

Unfortunately the Reptillians go straight to the top.

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Terror Effect:
It's funny how whipped you are.



It's funny how much misogyny there has been over this issue.

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Jenkem Lord:
Gem must be a good lay with all these reds protecting her.



I take that back. The misogyny is really sad and pathetic.


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Kijitow:
You're not handling this situation.

It is extremely frustrating to watch this happen, and the more you seem to defend the players in question the more upset your playerbase will become.



Sorry we're not handling the situation to General Discussion's specifications.

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Shadow Merchant:
@WookieCookie, If you are just going to delete the threads can you at least tell us something??? You won't tolerate witch hunts but the only thing you are doing to stop it is closing the threads where people want the truth. I feel as if you encourage a witch hunt by trying to force us into submission by deleting the threads. Can we please get some actual feedback instead of deletions?



I'm afraid we've already commented on the matter. There isn't anything else to say and our stance, especially on Naming and Shaming remains the same.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=39004082#39004082

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Farranor:
I very rarely vote on Red posts, and when I do it's usually an upvote, but I had to downvote this. Why is it okay for people to spam threads about how any given pro player is so bad and should be kicked from their team for throwing some play, but no one is allowed to talk about someone involved in elo boosting and hacking?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, seeing as how the initial concerns of hacking were ignored for days until Reds responded with "everything is fine go home" then deleted the mega-thread, even though they knew everything was not fine, as evidenced by the eventual "lol we got hacked, change ur passwordz" announcement.


I'd like to challenge you on this. Where did we say that "everything is fine go home?" all of our comments on the matter were that we were looking into it. Which we were, and we followed up with specific actions.

Also we have moderated threads dealing with Pro-Players when they cross the line. I have plenty of tickets waiting me complaining about this fact.

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Jayarrrrr:
Most of the posts that were deleted were not to this extent. One of my forum accounts was even permanently banned for making a thread titled "This is a test" with the text "XJ9, Gem, Pikachu, this concludes the test." It has goten to the point where everyone realizes the ludicrous way they've handled this situation.



Without knowing your specific account I can't say specifically what happened. If you have an issue with a moderation decision then you can write us a ticket. I DO know however, that most of the complaints I get on our support site are from Level 5 Alt accounts from the same set of players who KNOW what they're doing but are always shocked with feigned outrage when they end up getting banned. There is no amount of posting that would satisfy these players.

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XeLander:
Are you serious? Like...seriously? The fact that a person that is/was blatantly abusing the Tribunal/elo boosting is absolutely ridiculous. It's also ridiculous that nothing has been done to this certain individual because there is outstanding evidence that easily convicts them. Just because they know a Riot employee, they should not get a free pass to do whatever the **** they want. The minute you (as a company) choose to give someone the freedom to do so, other people get upset because they want the same treatment. I don't understand why this person is getting such special treatment. He/she should, if anything, be made examples of. This whole situation is pathetic and Riot as a whole should be ashamed of themselves



No one has received special treatment. All I can say is mob justice does not guide our hand. And if we were to even take action we wouldn't even comment on it.

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Raiyn:
Oh really? You won't tolerate witch hunts but you'll tolerate porn in Scarizards Rengar thread for over a week?

Pg 324, 339



Thank you. We can't be everywhere at once.


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Sulale:
People want answers wookie



I'm not afraid of the downvotes.

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RoyalAtreyuX:
Of course. Gotta take our Freedom of Speech away, right? Silly Riot. Wonder how many law suits are going to happen from this.


Please take a Civics 101 class.