Skarner, I miss your kind

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RiotScruffy

Game Designer

10-18-2013
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Hey all, exciting news! Skarner is coming to the pbe in the next update with his new reworked kit. Here is the changelist and some explanation for why we ended up with these changes:

Base Attack speed lowered by 1%

Crystal Slash
-Mana cost reduced from 20/22/24/26/28 to 16/18/20/22/24
-When target is hit, applies an attack speed buff for 5s that stacks up to 3 times 4/5/6/7/8
-Slow removed from Crystal Slash (moved to Fracture)

Exoskeleton
-Attack speed component removed
-Cooldown lowered from 18s to 14s
-Max movepseed increased from 15/17/19/21/23 to 24/28/32/36/40 and ramps up over 3s
-Duration remains at 6s
-Shield value increased from 70/115/160/205/250 to 75/125/175/225/280
-Shield AP ratio increased from 0.6 to 0.8

Fracture
-Mana cost reduced from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50
-Heal removed
-Targets hit are slowed by 30/35/40/45/50 for 2.5s
-Missile range increased 800->1000
-Missile width reduced 120->90

Impale
-Impale now roots targeted champion during the windup animation
-VO for “feel my sting” etc will happen on successful grab instead of cast start


Explanations
-The attack speed buff was moved from W to Q to make Skarner more consistent and less feast or famine
-The slow was moved from Q to E to get rid of the frustrating perma slow of his old Q but also to allow him some more flexibility and ability to make catches/plays with the ranged slow on E
-W speed values are buffed to bring him in line with other similar bruisers
-R now has a more consistent ability to grab targets once he has started casting on them

These changes are still not final, and I want everyone to play the new kit and give us feedback. Thanks again for all of the help with this rework, we think Skarner will be better than ever.

-Scruffy


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Biooutbreak

Member

10-18-2013

i'm not familiar with pbe updates, will the next pbe update be today or this week or something?


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X1zz3l

Member

10-18-2013

24% AS boost on lvl 5 with 3 stacks?
Meanwhile Jinx with 120%...

Wat

At least give him 40% or sth


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LesLlamas

Senior Member

10-18-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by RiotScruffy View Post
Hey all, exciting news! Skarner is coming to the pbe in the next update with his new reworked kit. Here is the changelist and some explanation for why we ended up with these changes:

Base Attack speed lowered by 1%

Crystal Slash
-Mana cost reduced from 20/22/24/26/28 to 16/18/20/22/24
-When target is hit, applies an attack speed buff for 6s that stacks up to 3 times 4/5/6/7/8
-Slow removed from Crystal Slash (moved to Fracture)

Exoskeleton
-Attack speed component removed
-Cooldown lowered from 18s to 14s
-Max movepseed increased from 15/17/19/21/23 to 24/28/32/36/40 and ramps up over 3s
-Duration remains at 6s
-Shield value increased from 70/115/160/205/250 to 75/125/175/225/280
-Shield AP ratio increased from 0.6 to 0.8

Fracture
-Mana cost reduced from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50
-Heal removed
-Targets hit are slowed by 30/35/40/45/50 for 2.5s
-Missile range increased 800->1000
-Missile width reduced 120->90

Impale
-Impale now roots targeted champion during the windup animation
-VO for “feel my sting” etc will happen on successful grab instead of cast start


Explanations
-The attack speed buff was moved from W to Q to make Skarner more consistent and less feast or famine
-The slow was moved from Q to E to get rid of the frustrating perma slow of his old Q but also to allow him some more flexibility and ability to make catches/plays with the ranged slow on E
-W speed values are buffed to bring him in line with other similar bruisers
-R now has a more consistent ability to grab targets once he has started casting on them

These changes are still not final, and I want everyone to play the new kit and give us feedback. Thanks again for all of the help with this rework, we think Skarner will be better than ever.

-Scruffy
All this says is: "You know that kit I told you about last time? Nothing is changed, but it's coming onto the PBE".

I understand that it's for summary's sake.


But I don't think we understand why it is that you ignored pages and pages and pages and pages of questions regarding (not the strength!) the uniqueness of the champion, and how this version of his Q and E are near carbon copies of Hecarim's rampage and Lulu's glitterlance. What fantasy do we get to fulfill now with the kit outside of his ultimate that we can't get somewhere else?


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Majin Bl3u

Senior Member

10-18-2013

So what does his passive look like now adays?


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DancerofWar

Senior Member

10-18-2013

All the changes sound like a great way to bring him back. Hope PBE gives good feed back and he makes it to live soon.


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Ahris Boyfriend

Junior Member

10-18-2013

I like how Vi R is definitely 100% more valuable than Skarner's R. Targets flash away from a Vi R are still targeted by it whereas you can effectively flash away from skarner. There's no reward to playing skarner at all.

thanks obama.


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Biooutbreak

Member

10-18-2013

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Originally Posted by Mr Bl3u View Post
So what does his passive look like now adays?
afaik passive is unchanged


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Leitschuh

Member

10-18-2013

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Originally Posted by Ahris Boyfriend View Post
I like how Vi R is definitely 100% more valuable than Skarner's R. Targets flash away from a Vi R are still targeted by it whereas you can effectively flash away from skarner. There's no reward to playing skarner at all.

thanks obama.
"Ahris Boyfriend"

Please uninstall.


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Duffman316

Member

10-18-2013

have you looked at gangplank or malzahar?