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Aram not Random!

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ARAMachination

Junior Member

09-08-2014

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What is a Wolf:
An unchecked Teemo in low mmr is as dangerous as a Ziggs in high mmr,

That's very optimistic.
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What is a Wolf:
yet doing it his way would both champs considered as "high winrate", which is a false interpretation of data.

If we picked from a sample size of 2 matches where both won once then yea it'd be inconclusive.

But throw up a month of big data and it becomes more objective:
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=ha&queue=normal

ARAM favors the champs with multi-target(ally or enemy) capabilities; champs that are typically AP.

Though I get what you're saying with champs that have a high skill ceiling not doing well in the hands of a non adapt player. But I still say balance it outright and let the players trade their champs they don't know how to play with something easier.


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What is a Wolf

Senior Member

09-08-2014

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ARAMachination:
But throw up a month of big data and it becomes more objective:
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=ha&queue=normal

Win rate charts from lolking.net come from data collected at any mmr and any level. Some high win rate champs from that chart are only there because they prey from low lvl games and are generally better in those area. Teemo was the champion that came to mind immediately since most people still buy "recommended" items and wouldn't buy a sweeper, ever.

No doubt some champs remain good at any level, but just looking at the winrate chart and using it to balance stuff out is a mistake.

One of the rule Riot and many other gaming companies have been following is to balance their game around the highest level of play, not the average of it all. That is observable in TT, Dominion and Rift throughout the last 3 years.


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Kolos1001

Senior Member

09-29-2014

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L4T3NCY:
Heya guys ^.^/ I realised we've never explicitly called this out before, so in the spirit of transparency, here we go!

ARAM's RNG is truly random from within the champions you have available at champ select.

I'll elaborate a little here. ARAM's RNG is truly random from the champions you own + the free weekly rotation champs. There is no weighting on any groups or champs whatsoever. When using a reroll, you obviously can't reroll a champ that someone on your team already has, so the system randoms again from your remaining pool (you are also guaranteed to not reroll the exact same champion again, so your pool is technically n-1). Rerolled champs go back into the available pool for everyone else to random if they use any subsequent rerolls.

Remember though, as pointed out previously in this thread and others, asymmetry in people's champion pools (whether intentionally manufactured or naturally occurring through varied champion pricing) will probably cause certain champs to come up statistically more often than others. This is what we're hoping to address by exploring the idea of unlocking all champions for ARAM.


ETA? 2072? Literally no reason not to give us info on this.


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JedditeOMG

Junior Member

10-05-2014

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Jeddite

Recruiter

10-05-2014

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