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Why isn't Bortk melee only?

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Pleasurewizard

Senior Member

07-24-2013

This seems like an easy fix that would work well. Why hasn't it been done?

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Phreak:
The goal of the item was to beat health stacking, not for melee only to beat health stacking.

I know we're nerfing the active in a coming patch, because it's too good for ranged champion kiting.


phreak did tons of damage with that post to which the community replies with this question...

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IS19abb317d9baed497b971:
Can you make the active be less strong for ranged champs, and more for melee, just like Yomumu?


The rational exchange of ideas continues!!!

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hashinshin:
Then why does it allow any ranged champion who buys it to get melee immunity unless the melee champion also buys it? Even at 3 seconds it'll be true. Reduce the time to 2 seconds for range, 4 seconds on melee. Stop nerfing melee because you guys don't understand how OP range is.

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The Sgt Pepper:
Stop crying get over it


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fredblaze01:
THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO NERF BOTRK WILL ALSO AFFECT MELEE!

You could:

1. Reduce the slow and movement speed on ranged i.e: red buff,TF,frozen mallet

2. Reduce the duration on ranged i.e : youmuu ghostblade

3. Reduce the range on ranged i.e : iron gauntlet aoe dmg




Also

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Don Storm Shadow:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...1#post40078054 (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=40078054&posted=1#post40078054)

Shen'd

#morello
#nerfmastersucktown
#theactuallivebalenceteambecauseiknowthatmorellodoesntdolivebalenceanymore


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Critmaster Garen

Senior Member

07-24-2013

at least they could start with making the active a proc on the next melee attack.


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Faptain Teemo

Member

07-24-2013

Because league of warmogs

/thread


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Gnomersy

Senior Member

07-24-2013

Because Riot hates melee champs for reference check Olaf.

I kid of course, but in reality I'd guess the reason they left it around is because they want ranged ADs to have options against hp stacking/resistance stacking enemies and they removed Madreds in S3 because nobody liked it.

Unfortunately I think they overshot the mark a bit and instead of just introducing a solid tank shredding item at a relatively high price point they added an extremely cost effective sustain and tank shredding item at a moderate price point with desirable stats and an active that makes ADCs weep for joy.

This coupled with nerfs to AS reductions and nerfs across the board on tank itemization makes the item much better for ranged than it has a right to be and in my games in S3 it's been a very common pick on at least 1 champion per game if not more.


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NotBuzzJack

Senior Member

07-24-2013

Because it was originally designed for both ranged and melee to soft counter health stacking. Only thing that's causing it to be problematic is the active.


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TheGosuStandard

Senior Member

07-24-2013

I think it was that S3 transition was to give ADC or Marksman now Diversity in what they build.


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Simba Pridelands

Senior Member

07-24-2013

alot of melees use botrk to catch people to get to melee making it proc on next melee atk is bad idea


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LionLegacy

Master Recruiter

07-24-2013

Why should it be? doesn't fit the lore


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Enfys Ellezard

Senior Member

07-24-2013

Quote:
TheGosuStandard:
I think it was that S3 transition was to give ADC or Marksman now Diversity in what they build.


Diversity will NEVER exist in LoL.

It exists in DoTA because almost everything is an active item.

In LoL? LOL look at what is most cost efficient and go with it.


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SOyProasfasdfdsa

Senior Member

07-24-2013

Quote:
Faptain Teemo:
Because league of warmogs

/thread




adc still were able to crit big hp targets to death late game.



Also hp is nerfed now, no reason to bortk to be ranged.