KhaZix, From a Jungler's Point of View.

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XxWarDoomxX

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06-14-2013

UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT CHANGED BESIDES THE REMOVAL OF HIS VOID SPIKES BEING ABLE TO BE USED MID AIR

This is mostly based off of a reddit post I created- http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...ave_their_own/

I feel as though KhaZix's ganks have been hurt a lot with the removal of the Void Spikes being able to be cast mid Leap. My main concern is the animation of his Void Spikes leaves him unable to move.

Reddit Post-
So, today I played a few games of, which was my main, KhaZix jungle. At first I was very excited because of the changes to the jungle, and I do like them. After getting into the game further to the point when I began to gank, I realized how bad, no not bad horrible, my ganks were. I had lost a lot of burst without the Void Spikes being able to be activated within Leap, I understand how this burst could potentially be Op so I am overall fine with it, but after Leaping onto a target and Q'ing, I am left with a decision to either use Void Spikes or auto attack the target. The animation of Void Spikes is horrible because it leaves you frozen in place letting your target walk away. This also makes it pretty damn bad to use in a middle of a team fight because you lose your mobility. Since I love to build full on Assassin KhaZix (which is how he should be built since he is an assassin) this mobility is crucial so you don't get locked down and CC'ed to death.
Overall, in my opinion...
-KhaZix has lost a lot of his burst to take down targets, even at relatively low Health.
-KhaZix's Void Spikes need a "rework", maybe a better animation?
-In my opinion I think these nerfs were focused for lane ZhaZix's alone, which isn't fair for jungle Khazix's.(KhaZix is classified as a Jungler)
-Possibly Role back this KhaZix E-W mid air combination
-I never found KhaZix to be "Op" before, people just didn't know how to play against him properly.
-I see him as a downside to a team now(requires even more "baiting" or positioning) like Ap Evelynn.
-KhaZix feels like a completely different Champion to me.

Riot created KhaZix to be able to Jungle as one of his main roles on a team, and they keep using "this is not how we intended KhaZix to be" as an excuse for the changes while hurting his ganks?
Edit: After Down Voting, Please explain why in the comments, Ty
Thank You to whoever up voted, now I know somebody understands.

Found Other Great Posts With Lots of Juicy Stuff, http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege..._spikes_while/
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...you_have_done/
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...oo_clunky_now/
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...ate_of_khazix/

I posted quite a bit here, this might explain ALOT to people who don't agree-
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...change/cahwkqi

Give me Feedback, so I can truly understand your side of the situation.

Check Out His Win Rates Here, as you can see he was barely on the 50% mark- http://www.lolking.net/champions/khazix#statistics


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XxWarDoomxX

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06-14-2013

Thank you for taking the time to read my opinion, and possibly reading others from the links I provided.
Be sure to leave a comment about why you disagree or agree!


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XxWarDoomxX

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06-14-2013

Off to a good start! 1 down vote, and I got no idea why. Ty for the feedback.


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frokid

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06-14-2013

His W is a ranged ability.
It's mostly ment for the heal or harrassing people as lane kha.
Once you get in close, don't use the spikes.
(Viewpoint of a non khaz player.)


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XxWarDoomxX

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06-14-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by frokid View Post
His W is a ranged ability.
It's mostly ment for the heal or harrassing people as lane kha.
Once you get in close, don't use the spikes.
(Viewpoint of a non khaz player.)
Ok, so don't use his Void Spikes is the solution? That is one bad solution, if you ask me..
His Void Spikes were still a big chunk of his burst before the removal of the E-W mid air combination.


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Mordaine137

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06-14-2013

Instead of leapspikes,you can now leapexecute.huehuehuehuheuheuhuehhueuhe


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XxWarDoomxX

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06-14-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordaine137 View Post
Instead of leapspikes,you can now leapexecute.huehuehuehuheuheuhuehhueuhe
Not sure if this is sirious, but if you read everything I had to say then you would know he losses his mobility having to use his cast the animation of void spikes after hitting the ground. Leaving you easily ****ed by CC and the enemy team.


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XxWarDoomxX

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06-14-2013

Bump, this is a really big problem in my opinion, so it needs attention.


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Akesgeroth

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06-14-2013

Quote:
-KhaZix has lost a lot of his burst to take down targets, even at relatively low Health.
Your just invalidated your post. Downvoted, moving on.


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xNixillis

Senior Member

06-14-2013

I agree with your points, and it makes sense to give that back to Kha' Zix. The only problem that exists now though is that Kha is used quite a lot already and is doing pretty good. Any small "buff" would only create more rage.

I do believe that the leap to void spikes was amazing for Kha as it made him very fluid and just more satisfying to play. But knowing Riot, they probably wont give it back ._.