Should harder champions be better than easier champions?

Yes 97 58.43%
No 69 41.57%
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Poll - Should harder champions be better than easy ones?

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Drizz

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11-13-2010

Riots supposed balance philosophy is that every champion should be balanced to the maximum efficiency that they can be played at. Yet there is still a short list of champions that are just better at their jobs than others

Should this really be how it is? There is almost no reason to play any caster besides annie or vlad due to their ease of use and massive effectiveness in team fights. You would have to be VERY good at veigar or anivia to come close to equaling them, and there is no payoff at all.

If there already exists champions that are plain better than others, MF & Twitch > trist & teemo, galio amu > most other tanks, etc. Should the list at least be biased on skill?

I think there should be a choice like, "Well this champion X has a more powerful ult but is hard to land and his farming is hard, so i will chose the more reliable but less powerful champion Y"

when in reality there is no consequence to choosing the "easier" champion because in end game they are all balanced the same


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PlayerFour

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11-13-2010

No, champions should be balanced.

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Haestro

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11-13-2010

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No, champions should be balanced.

/thread
That is the question he is contemplating... What is balance?


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PlayerFour

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That is the question he is contemplating... What is balance?
The problem would be that top tier players who CAN play the "hard to play" champions very effectively would then have no use for the "easy to play" champions. Then, those "easy" champions would never show up in the metagame, because they are fundamentally "worse" than "hard to play" champions.


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Silent Reaper

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11-13-2010

There is a champion that does reflect this ideaology.
Anivia.

And I'm glad it does.

Sadly, Ezreal is left in the corner crying.


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Drizz

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11-13-2010

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The problem would be that top tier players who CAN play the "hard to play" champions very effectively would then have no use for the "easy to play" champions. Then, those "easy" champions would never show up in the metagame, because they are fundamentally "worse" than "hard to play" champions.
but this is already how it is, except that the top players just play the "top tier" and dominate with those only. at least you would have to be really good with the really hard champion and at this point you have earned the right to be dominating. except you see top tier players dominating with the same champions that you teach new players how to play on. the AOE disable tanks are much easier to play than chogath and tank effectively. if a top player got super good with cho, shouldnt he be actually better at tanking then because youre doing more than pressing R


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Brassherald

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11-13-2010

I think that champs who are particularly strong should be a bit harder to play, but difficulty and power should not correlate since that would be unfair to newer players. Most of the rewards for playing a character that is hard to play is the fact that you take on a challenge and have some fun doing so, not just to get a higher power level.


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Vantwan

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11-13-2010

Subtle rage thread about Sona is subtle.

I agree with the OP; higher potential champions should be more game-changing than easy-to-play ones.


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TalkGibberish

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11-13-2010

Suppose Riot comes out with two new champions, Fred and Sarah. They fulfill similar roles, however, Fred is hard to play, but better than Sarah when played right.
Sarah is easy to play, but not as effective as Fred.

Suppose you enjoy playing Sarah more than Fred.

If you ever pick her, your teamates will assume that you are bad because you chose the easy champion. therefore, you must really suck and need a handicap. You can no longer play a character that you enjoy because it is not effective in any area that cant be replaced with Fred


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Minority Report

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11-13-2010

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That is the question he is contemplating... What is balance?
This is balance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWeWMKfa3g