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Bring Warmog's back

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Zatachi13

Member

05-02-2013

My problem with guardian's horn is that it's essentially just the item active. While it's an amazing active, the base stats are not all that appealing and it usually feels there are better items for consistent sustain it doesn't even build into anything and thus it feels like an almost wasted slot/ gold investment. Heck I consider Eliesa's Miracle the better choice of the two (even if you don't have mana) because once it becomes permanent it leaves the slot open and you get permanent boost to health regen (And a lot of people take barrier and heal so it helps there too)


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Basist

Senior Member

05-02-2013

Not even 200 health for an item is hardly a replacement Nome. Sure it helps out early game, but after you've gotten a couple of items completed it just gets more and more of a wasted slot. Half of the champs that actually need the horn use it to close gaps as it was intended, but that's about it. The ar/mr bonus rarely helps since most of the time you'll use it to chase and if they're smart, they will wait until it wears off before nuking.

It still doesn't adress the issue that some champs need better itemization for this mode.


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Necroclysm

Senior Member

05-02-2013

Quote:
Daharahj:
Poke teams have strong early and really weak late compared to what most melee chars can bring when coordinating with one another.

They're not that hard to beat when you learn to stall and engage when you have the advatage, even though it's hard to do without a premade.

If you nerf poke teams' early game then you're basically destroying the only thing they're good at.

If there's something in ARAM that's way too strong right now are ADCs, usually if you let the team with an ADC hold the game for 20 mins and you don't have an ADC of your own, you basically lost.



The big exception, of course, are the heavy poking ADCs/bruisers stacking up on a team.
Jayce + Caitlyn on the same team is absolutely brutal to play against and they definitely do not have weak late games.
For the most part, though, good pokers aren't so good late game.


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Marthike

Senior Member

05-02-2013

Can we at least get overlords bloodmail? Ik guardian horn was brought in, but it doesnt give enough hp. Poke is way too strong now


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newbin

Senior Member

05-02-2013

warmog's was too good for 1 slot item. spirit vage and another hp item should be more then enough. you people are just greedy.


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Best Lolicon NA

Senior Member

05-02-2013

you guys really need to make items to diminish how dominate poke comps are in ARAM, 7 times out of 10 when I lose is due to me fighting teams with 2 or more poke champions... Lux, Nid and Yi pretty much guarantee a win if played even halfway decently since they scale so hard and they are guaranteed to scale to outrageous levels by the 15 minute mark, maybe make a few items with HP and MR on them...or you know put FoN in the Howling Abyss, that would work pretty damn effectively.


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zlefin

Senior Member

05-02-2013

you seriously haven't followed the game if you think warmogs was a problem; warmogs simply isn't, the regen is far too low to be that strong on abyss.


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thenewzero

Senior Member

05-02-2013

It'd be nice to see Guardian's Horn build into something. It currently feels like half an item that you are supposed to sell at some point. It might as well just not have stats and cost as much as a Doran's item and be renamed "Doran's Horn".


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smurfgame

Senior Member

05-02-2013

Quote:
Super Nomegeta:
Warmog's on ARAM created more problems than it solved.

Champions that needed Warmog's most bought it first, but ended up being meat bags that did no damage. It wasn't fun, but a team with multiple Warmog's would almost certainly destroy the team without. On a map without Recall, regeneration and health are premium stats and Warmog's was simply far too effective.

We specifically made Guardian's Horn to fill the early-game holes that Warmog's failed to fill, but not be nearly as frustrating to buy or fight against.

So what the #^$# is MUNDO supposed to buy now. He has NOTHING that synergizes well with him now. No force of nature, no health items, embarrassingly poor hp regen build options.


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smurfgame

Senior Member

05-02-2013

Quote:
newbin:
warmog's was too good for 1 slot item. spirit vage and another hp item should be more then enough. you people are just greedy.

play mundo and try that. come back and say it again after.