[GUIDE] The Legend of Udyr

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CTHDRL

Senior Member

01-19-2010

Played Udyr for the first time today.


Zerks
TF
PD
Black Cleaver
Bloodrazor
Phage > Frozen Mallet.


GG, Udyr can now divide by Zero.


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Belial

Member

01-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
Played Udyr for the first time today.


Zerks
TF
PD
Black Cleaver
Bloodrazor
Phage > Frozen Mallet.


GG, Udyr can now divide by Zero.

No llifesteal items? How about replacing Frozen Mallet with Stark's Fervor? And what's so good about Madred's Bloodrazor?


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Zanefein

Junior Member

01-19-2010

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And what's so good about Madred's Bloodrazor?
Madred's Bloodrazor takes out 4% of their max hp per hit. Tiger stances gets your attack speed to the cap: 2.5 attacks per second. That means 10% of their max hp gone, per second. Now, this isn't a realistic number because you have to factor in their magic resistances, as well as not being able to maintain 2.5 attack speed in tiger after the initial burst of speed fades off, but you get the point. It's an item that capitalizes on his ridiculous attack speed.


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Zombie Irwin

Senior Member

01-21-2010

I've been having fun with udyr but I go for vamp scepter>malady, then usually merc boots to avoid the CC that will always be coming my way... I also go phoenix/turtle at first, although sometimes i get bear early if i find someone dumb enough to engage me near my towers early game

i never use tiger when fighting champions and i typically never lose unless its 3 people on me, or 2 really strong champs.... open with bear, then phoenix, then turtle shield, then bear stun, then phoenix, etc etc.. i only use turtle if theyre actually fighting back


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LackofCertainty

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01-21-2010

I haven't tried this build yet, but I have some concerns about the item/rune build.

If you're maxing turtle early, and spamming it during engagements for shielding, then there is a decent chunk of time where you are completely unable to crit. Why take crit damage runes, and build crit items if you're not going to benefit from them?

For the first 10 levels, you're getting a 50% benefit from your crit stuff. (potentially a little more, since you can swap out of turtle asap and sit in bear to let your cd drop, but then you're missing out on some of your passive)

from level 11-15 you're only getting 66% efficiency from your crit items and runes, because at this point you should be able to constantly switch stances.

Constantly swapping stances means that you spend equal time in each stance -> equal time in each stance means 1/3 of your time is in turtle -> turtle stance can't crit -> 1/3 of the time you can't crit -> your crit items and runes are only doing 2/3rds of what they normally do

I've always thought that turtle heavy udyr's should build for attack speed and damage (or armor pen) over crits, since turtle packs the "no crit" downside.


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Black Spore Dawn

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01-22-2010

I agree with you Lack, but all guides should be read with a bit of criticism. You don't have to follow it by the letter, just learn what you can from them. I personally use a different item build than what Jack's shown, but I found this skillset to be the best. You need to experiment to find out what works best with your playstyle, hehe.


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Omega Therion

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01-23-2010

Considering building an AD heavy udyr with Armor Pen on the side to bring turtle regen back to where it used to be and to maximize on Tiger DoT.


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c00L3r

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01-26-2010

This is ****ing tactic!!! When i tried it i lost 0-11 without any kills...-_-


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Coyotegrey

Junior Member

01-26-2010

My Udyr build's served me very well from the beginning.
Here's last night's match in four parts:

http://*******.com/yd3j4xp
http://*******.com/ydle556
http://*******.com/ybnwkhp
http://*******.com/y898j4g

I also often link my match results here.

I recommend everyone giving the build a shot. It's a blast.

Oh, and if you want to see more matches of mine in the future, add me on twitter. I use it to let people know when I'm live.

http://twitter.com/Coyotegrey

I'm certainly not the best Udyr, but I'm not too shabby. And he's usually all I play.


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Omega Therion

Senior Member

01-28-2010

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Originally Posted by Coyotegrey View Post
My Udyr build's served me very well from the beginning.
Here's last night's match in four parts:

http://*******.com/yd3j4xp
http://*******.com/ydle556
http://*******.com/ybnwkhp
http://*******.com/y898j4g

I also often link my match results here.

I recommend everyone giving the build a shot. It's a blast.

Oh, and if you want to see more matches of mine in the future, add me on twitter. I use it to let people know when I'm live.

http://twitter.com/Coyotegrey

I'm certainly not the best Udyr, but I'm not too shabby. And he's usually all I play.
No triforce? Very interesting. I wonder do you use Tiger more? I've found great success using Black Cleaver after TF if I don't have to Stark's