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Originally Posted by

**n3phx**
Actually thats a poor way of checking...

Unless talking about draft, as normal now look for elo's outside your range after a few mins since a few months ago.

Draft always takes 10mins+, as its really dead.

The MMR formula expands the range of the MMR of the people it matches you with from the instant you queue. The rate it expands at is a constant (though I'm not sure what it is). The formula is the same regardless of whether you're queueing for draft or blind; draft queues are longer simply because there are fewer players queueing.

While you are essentially correct, the matchmaker takes time to find other players outside your range, because it takes time to expand the range. The reason queue time becomes a decent indicator of Elo at higher Elo is that the Elo range at which you would find x amount of players queuing at a given moment is much wider at very high and very low Elo, compared to average Elo (assuming, as always, that you are in solo queue).

The principle of the matchmaker balances a first-come-first-serve basis with estimated player/team quality. It's actually quite refined for what it does and I'm not one to grief it. I rarely play a solo queue game on Dominion where the teams are seriously imbalanced. We just need more high Elo dominion players