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Nidalee - Cougar Form W and E

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Harook

Senior Member

04-09-2013

Whether or not you think Nidalee is a dumb champion. Whether or not you think she should be deleted from the league or played all the time. I believe that we can all agree that her cougar form abilities, w and e are really annoying to use.

When I say w and e, I speak of Pounce and Swipe. They both have nothing to do with mouse placement and everything to do with champion positioning. And while this is a mechanic that adds challenge to Nidalee, I find it does so in a frustrating and pointless way.

It doesn't make Nidalee harder as a champion by forcing you to outplay your opponent or think ahead of them, it does so in a way which forces you to cope with game mechanics and things like minion pathing. Now making the game easier shouldn't necessarily be a goal for LoL because challenge makes the game more interesting, but we shouldn't do it in such a way that the challenge comes from having to deal with ugly mechanics.

In the interest of making these changes I suggest that at the very least we should change Pounce to how it works with Rivan's Q, Broken Wings, in that if your mouse is hovering over an enemy target, you Pounce towards that target and not in the direction you're facing. At most we should be able to actually have her choose where she leaps to, similar to Graves' quickdraw.

Swipe should get similar treatment to Cho's cone silence. You should be able position your mouse and use it in the direction you choose. You shouldn't be at the mercy of creep blocks etc when using your abilities directionally.


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blitzen

Junior Member

04-09-2013

I agree nid needs some QoL changes but I disagree on the swipe. If you create a cone for the skill that an extra button click. makes hitting the skill faster then your enemy to get that last hit much harder. I feel both W and E should work like Riven's broken wing.


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Harook

Senior Member

04-09-2013

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blitzen:
I agree nid needs some QoL changes but I disagree on the swipe. If you create a cone for the skill that an extra button click. makes hitting the skill faster then your enemy to get that last hit much harder. I feel both W and E should work like Riven's broken wing.

If you're smartcasting it isn't an extra button click, it simply lets you aim it.


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Naokazu

Senior Member

04-09-2013

I, for one, find it silly that her cougar form abilities scale with ult rank instead of skill ranks.


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Sagee Prime

Senior Member

04-09-2013

Actually OP I believe both Swipe and pounce should work exactly like Broken Wings. Both skill should fire directly in front of Nidalee like they currently do but when you highlight an enemy Nidalee should pounce or swipe at the target you highlighted. This would make her Cougar much cleaner when it comes to offensive purposes instead of having those dumb problems where Nidalee jumps the wrong way, leaps over the target dealing 0 damage, or swipes backwards.

Xypherous was talking about making changes like this quite a while back but we never heard anything about it afterwards except a few posts from CertainlyT.


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Desecraté

Member

04-10-2013

I'd have to disagree on both of these suggestions, it just takes some getting used to, sure it's annoying at times, but I'd say its really fine. Makes you have to be more aware of where you are and what you are doing, which is really how I feel nidalee is meant to make you feel.


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grusminion

Senior Member

05-16-2014

They are difficult to use. In fact the whole cougar form should be deleted from her kit. That will make her more balanced.


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