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Do we want more ignore unit collision items?

Yes 45 77.59%
No 13 22.41%
Voters 58 .

More items with ignore unit collision.

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Vhaegor

Senior Member

04-03-2013

Why is there only one item that ignores unit collision (Phantom Dancer), it sucks because the only champions that can use are ADC's, we need an item that can work for all or atleast most champions so others can get unit collision (not likes it op or anything), a defense item atleast and maybe even an AD and AP one for others.

what do you think?


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Quepha

Senior Member

04-03-2013

if you really really want to move through units you can get ghost or play a champ that has that ability already. the devs don't have to (and probably shouldn't) make every passive available to every role. i'm sure AP champs would love to have liandry's damage apply instantly like botrk, or AD champs with a zhonya-like cooldown, or maybe a tank item that gives them the active from bilgewater cutlass, but these unique attributes are unique, that's what makes them special.


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Llanite

Senior Member

04-04-2013

You means Riot should never release any new item?


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Quepha

Senior Member

04-05-2013

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Llanite:
You means Riot should never release any new item?

no, i think when they release a new item it should be a new item and not phantom dancer for bruisers, phantom dancer for tanks, and phantom dancer for supports


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Gulma

Senior Member

04-05-2013

Guess we should remove LW since there is already void staff can't have that can we?


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sigdaboss

Junior Member

04-05-2013

Bump quepha.


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Quepha

Senior Member

04-06-2013

Quote:
Gulma:
Guess we should remove LW since there is already void staff can't have that can we?

well, it would be nice if LW and void staff were as different from each other as bloodthirster and wota are.


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IceHound

Recruiter

04-06-2013

LW and void staff are for the pen they offer, it would be dumb to not offer it to both AP and AD since they both require a way to counter defenses should enemy team start stacking MR or armor. Phantom Dancer's passive isn't really needed by any roles in the first place so it should be exclusive itself. Items and passives will only get an AP/AD version of itself should it be an important passive(e.x wounds passive).


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Tyr Ahn Nee

Senior Member

04-06-2013

Quote:
Quepha:
no, i think when they release a new item it should be a new item and not phantom dancer for bruisers, phantom dancer for tanks, and phantom dancer for supports

Riot should stop 'Micro-managing builds."

I mean the OP is right;
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Why is there only one item that ignores unit collision (Phantom Dancer), it sucks because the only champions that can use are ADC's, we need an item that can work for all or atleast most champions

Rather than simply making this ability available to all champs, Riot designed it so that it can only be used by ADCs. Rather than give players the freedom to build their champs their way, Riot wants to decide who gets what ability, Riot wants to Micro-manage builds.

Also, I don't think "Unit Collision" is the problem.
Its what happens AFTER you collide with a unit that is absolutely unbelieveable!
If you've never paid attention to what happens after Unit Collision, what happens is; YOU LOSE CONTROL OF YOUR CHAMP.

If you watch the high elo players, like Bischulol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrEpa9fggw), they are constantly Right Clicking on the map, they are fighting the game system for control of their champ, because the game system constantly takes control of your champ away from you. Targeting and Pathing.

That's what needs to be fixed.


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Vhaegor

Senior Member

04-06-2013

Quote:
Gulma:
Guess we should remove LW since there is already void staff can't have that can we?


How are they the same? ones for AD ones for AP, no one champion ever buys them both. your pretty stupid for even saying that


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