Journey Into The Freljord III: The Troll King

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Muranodo

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04-02-2013

Just saw the skins on S@20. So glad I didn't bother buying Little Slugger Trundle or Junkyard Trundle on sale =_=


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Muranodo

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04-02-2013

Someone put it well when they described the new Trundle sounded like an ice golem. Nothing of my old troll in there. He'd be fun as another champion, I suppose, for a different crowd; I don't feel any attachment.


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MyFatHornyTurtle

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04-02-2013

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Well, the new Trundle stuff is out. That confirms that.

As promised earlier in this thread, I won't ever play this game again. Riot broke a promise to always keep their characters and players in mind when doing these "reimaginings", and have officially destroyed a character today with disregard for the players feelings on the matter, as expressed in this thread by many, many people. No disease, no tribe, no martyrdom. No Trundle. As I said before, if we're going to be punished for caring about a character by seeing that character stripped to nothing, then what's the point about caring about -any- of them?

You broke a promise Riot, but I'll keep mine. Enjoy your Troll King. Especially since you had to lie to get him.
im with you dude fuk this game and fuk the new trundle


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Holy Malevolence

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04-02-2013

I feared that they were going to ruin Trundle completely.
But they told me, wait until you see everything to make your final diagnosis. And I did. I waited. And I'm pleased to say.


I obviously didn't fear enough. They did one worse than what I imagined.
Good going. You managed to not disappoint my expectations of being extremely disappointed.


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Muranodo

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I feared that they were going to ruin Trundle completely.
But they told me, wait until you see everything to make your final diagnosis. And I did. I waited. And I'm pleased to say.


I obviously didn't fear enough. They did one worse than what I imagined.
Good going. You managed to not disappoint my expectations of being extremely disappointed.
How I feel right now. Also, all the time is being spent on talking about Sejuani on the dev tracker now besides Grumpy Monkey feeling disrespected and avoiding responding to the more respectful feedback and thus making a matter out of the two-way street deal on respect.


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MrSmileyy

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04-02-2013

Wow...just looked at pbe stuff omg =/ lil slugger looks terrible, not to mention lil doesn't work since he is now HULKING TROLL KING RAWR, junkyard trundle lost the awesome reference it was and is now just another generic troll look. His traditional looks nothing like old trundle in any way. His skills have practically not changed at all.

Riot refuses to respond to us, they completely lied about how they would handle remakes as well and won't comment on that, pretty much they just **** one very trundle fan and seem to have no care to offer them anything.

The sad thing is, the majority of players didn't care about trundle so they will see a remake as a good thing and not look too far into it, as a result they likely don't have anything to lose from ****ing us, ignoring us, then moving on to other things.

...they didn't even change his goddamn kit, so why the hell change the entire character

edit: playing him on pbe, the ice pillar is...so boring compared to pillar of filth, also why does he steal stats now...doesn't make sense with ice. With how little his kit changed I simply dont udnerstand hwy the drastic character change was needed.


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Galgus

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04-03-2013

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Riot is a company. Of course they're going to give unsatisfactory answers, the sodding blackguards. I enjoyed the fact that there was this non popular, ugly, underdog of a champ that defied all the other champ designs by being ugly. It felt very refreshing to run around as a runt sized, dirty little troll and I'm not happy about that changing.

Oh and the abilities? Don't get me started. They said they were changing them only slightly, which they did, but in all the wrong ways. If they were to make this sort of change, they should have make it total and complete.

His Q: okay, maybe big ugly trolls chomp a lot but with such a big lore emphasis on his club, don't you think something like a bash would have been more appropriate?

W: What? Frozen kingdom? Maybe this works, but I'll have to see the stats, but as of late, I have been unhappy with the nerfs they made to the buffs his W gives. If they haven't fixed that then there is still a problem.

E: This one is the only one I think is decently tied into his lore.

R: No longer heals him? REALLY RIOT? You just took away my favorite thing about the dude. Plus, how is this a part of what he does? He doesn't even have regen abilities mentioned in the lore so that's totally irrelevant. Obviously, by changing the lore, Riot just crippled themselves AND Trundle's ult.

Conclusion: the tweaks have failed and the lore is handicapping the rework. They should just scrap this and try another champ. Give us back the old Trundle.

[edit] Okay, so the R does give health, but they didn't change the Q, which I feel is not strong enough. Also, I still feel like this is going to be a much different Trundle than the tyke i'm used to playing.
I have to agree with your points: the lore doesn't sink up well with the kit.

You kind of nailed the problems though, so I won't need to elaborate.

(Aside the passive. Why is a Troll King with some ice magic through the club able to steal life from the dead?)


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Galgus

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04-03-2013

They...they didn't give Traditional Trundle new particles, he even uses the same roar and breath sound before bite and pillar!

(On Surrender @ 20 at least.)

Now I'm really depressed, but at least he uses the old voice- which sounds better than the new one.


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Fatalfugus

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04-03-2013

I actually really like the way new trundle looks. And though I shall miss his old lore, it makes sense to try and fit him in with the rest of the world.


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MrSmileyy

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I actually really like the way new trundle looks. And though I shall miss his old lore, it makes sense to try and fit him in with the rest of the world.
then what about the throngs of other champs that have no place, despite being recently made? Nami and Zyra for example, shall we remake them too? Why just Trundle? Also, the larger point, pushing aside any opinions on new trundle and his effects etc is that they blatantly lied to the community on their stance on remakes and refuse to comment on it. They have offered NOTHING to those who liked trundle sold look character, they didn't even change the kit much they just trashed the character and touched up the kit, even if the kit no longer makes sense to this brand new troll also named trundle.

Why not make a new character? If his lore is changed because he "didn't fit" with the world, they they have A LOT of reworks to do,including some very new champions, or explanation as to why they decided to axe trundle and his fans completely. I have a negative feeling they will do neither though and just ignore us since they can. Refusal to respond thus far has shown they simply don't care.

edit: at this point, if they simply changed his name to something else and left trundle gone completely I would be LESS offended. This simply isn't trundle.