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Zac: Problems and solutions

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RichardMcNixon

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03-21-2013

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Crowcide:
No, you don't understand, since its % based true damage and his globs heal % there is no difference in terms of health efficiency if you stack health or armor. Using a spell, picking up a glob is exactly the same good or bad regardless of what tank stats you get. There is no way to mitigate health cost as zac except to not build any tank stats, which makes it really hard to be a tank.


I get it. It's the same no matter what. I don't think i was quite clear about that - was at work all day and all systems were down so i was a bit distracted from trolling forums hehe

I think where we differ in opinions is whether to be a tank or a bruiser.

IMO he works great as a highly mobile bruiser (so far - need to test my builds more if PBE will cooperate lol)


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Crowcide

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03-21-2013

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RichardMcNixon:
I get it. It's the same no matter what. I don't think i was quite clear about that - was at work all day and all systems were down so i was a bit distracted from trolling forums hehe

I think where we differ in opinions is whether to be a tank or a bruiser.

IMO he works great as a highly mobile bruiser (so far - need to test my builds more if PBE will cooperate lol)

I don't get how is he a good bruiser with no defensive steroids and bad damage.


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Crowcide

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03-22-2013

ttt


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RichardMcNixon

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03-22-2013

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Crowcide:
I don't get how is he a good bruiser with no defensive steroids and bad damage.


Don't ask me how - it just works. Think Cho. I mean, he doesn't have the ultimate nom, but his ult is devastating in its own way. I'll E > R > W++++ (Q) to victory all day

It's more off-tank than bruiser in the end. I just haven't heard anyone throw "off-tank" around figured it would be easier to relate to the bruiser crowd.


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Crowcide

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03-22-2013

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RichardMcNixon:
Don't ask me how - it just works. Think Cho. I mean, he doesn't have the ultimate nom, but his ult is devastating in its own way. I'll E > R > W++++ (Q) to victory all day

It's more off-tank than bruiser in the end. I just haven't heard anyone throw "off-tank" around figured it would be easier to relate to the bruiser crowd.

Cho has damage and defensive steroids though.


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RichardMcNixon

Senior Member

03-22-2013

zac's passive is pretty much a defensive steroid in a way - and he has damage - it's just more AOE. I don't know i really need to play him more but i get off work 2 hours before daily maintenance then go to bed 1-2 hours after it's (usually) up. Weekends is my time to shine. I plan on playing a lot of ZAC this weekend.


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Crowcide

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03-22-2013

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RichardMcNixon:
zac's passive is pretty much a defensive steroid in a way - and he has damage - it's just more AOE. I don't know i really need to play him more but i get off work 2 hours before daily maintenance then go to bed 1-2 hours after it's (usually) up. Weekends is my time to shine. I plan on playing a lot of ZAC this weekend.

His passive is almost unusable in team fights


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RichardMcNixon

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03-22-2013

i don't know - i seem to accidentally wander over blobs enough to make it useful.

Also gotta consider that changes to the globs is on the way


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Eyrgos

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03-22-2013

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Crowcide:
I don't get how is he a good bruiser with no defensive steroids and bad damage.


He has insane sticking power and mad in-fight regeneration (sustainability)...

build him AD Bruiser with a Ravenous & SV.


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Crowcide

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03-22-2013

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Eyrgos:
He has insane sticking power and mad in-fight regeneration (sustainability)...

build him AD Bruiser with a Ravenous & SV.

Neither of these are true, lol. Hydra is a terrible item on him.