So, about that Karma leak...

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RoflSyrup

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03-07-2013

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I think it is because the fans, while only playing a minor role in her kit, were symbolic of her "enlightened" background. She used an nontraditional weapon, similar to Jax's lamp post, on a battlefield with other champions using swords, guns, etc. which enhanced and spoke to that inner strength you mention. Her resolve is what gave her power, not the fans, but they served as a reminder that she was of a different stature then other champions on the field. She did not rely on conventional weaponry, but her will alone to defeat her enemies.

I think removing the fans were a mistake. If anything they should have played up the fans. It would have allowed them to show that unlike Jax, who uses his physical prowess and skills as fighter overcome a self inclined handicap. Karma's determination and willpower are all she needs. The fans serve as a vehicle to convey that message:

"I am stronger than you, I will beat you, not because I was born a fighter. It is because I was pushed to this. The path I take is through you, for my people, those that have died and those that suffer on. I will cast you aside the way a fan pushes the air on a warm summer's night. You may not fear my fans, but you will fear me."

That's my take at least.
Although I personally feel that the removal of the fans isn't such a big deal, and am overall quite pleased with this VU, this is very nicely said and you bring up good points. Now I feel that I would prefer the fans more than I did before, because they feel rather integral to her character if you look at the situation from this standpoint. Otherwise, I'm still happy about the VU, and have no reason to complain.


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Gaws00

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03-07-2013

Loving it riot ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TIME FORE A NEW DIANA SKIN


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SplendidSorrow

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03-07-2013

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This, people arguing the fans had nothing to do were idiots and are idiots and never big karma fans.

I for one hate this change due to the lack of fans, the over sexualized "new imagery" to sell you more league of legends pornography, and possible apcarry-support remake. Inb4 the only thing that's the same about karma after this is the ultimate. Even then they will probably remove the charge system or some stupid ****.
I still don't get the idea of how this new look is oversexualized.....


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Ruskraaz

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03-07-2013

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I think it is because the fans, while only playing a minor role in her kit, were symbolic of her "enlightened" background..
I can say why the removal of the fans disappoint me, can't speak for others.
In addition to the fans being really symbolic, the way she walks and her stance will be different.
Her animations were very feminine/ladylike, and I fear that might be missing from new Karma.

Can't really decide until I see Sun Goddess Karma and the animations, I guess I'll just wait for SkinSpotlights' videos.
I promised I would play League again when they rework Karma, but I'm not sure anymore.


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Moira

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03-07-2013

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You make some pretty good points too. What I mean isn't really that she has no personality at all, of course, just that her personality will probably be a lot more generic. More of a fighter kind of thing that many other female champions already represent. The design and even her posture in the few screenshots definitely seem to suggest that.



See, the point is... Why? Why can't we just have a leader that is calm and collected in the way she dresses, the way she behaves and the way she fights? Why does the single character that fits that description have to get changed so dramatically to fit into a completely different archetype? Why do we, the players, have to adapt and reimagine all this weird new personality/lore thing to convince ourselves that she had a midlife crisis and decided to become a sexy girl fighter?

She was the politician. The spiritual leader. Maybe she could've been a religious leader of some sort, but why did she have to be transformed in the battlefield leader? There's the politician, and there's the soldier. Two very different things. The complete shift in her personality and lore just isn't believable or justifiable.

That was the point I was trying to make. Do you see politicians on the battlefield? No. A soldier can be a politician, sure, but a politician cannot be a soldier without training. And League of Legends is, as I said, a battlefield.


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Bes7iA

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I still don't get the idea of how this new look is oversexualized.....
her boobs are much more notorius, she has a complety naked leg, and overall she is showing 200% more skin


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Letler

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03-07-2013

Skills pls noaaaww


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TheOnlyBandEver

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03-07-2013

This sucks. I bought Sakura Karma on release because her default was ugly. But now her new default is absolutely beautiful (I have a thing for girls with short hair). I know her other skins are being redone as well, but I have a feeling this is going to be the same case with Sona where her new default just looks so much better and I feel bad about using my Silent Night Sona over her default.


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Kyurian

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03-07-2013

So karma had entered the dragon? That's down right fierce.


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IS14696195e1336cdef530a

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03-07-2013

Karma looks like a fat stripper now ;_;
Glad i own her so i get the good skin, though im gonna get scared of all the fat stripper enemies around the battelfield :/