Are these items good?

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StevoPhilo

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12-03-2009

Is deathfire grasp good for lets say Anivia or Veigar? I personally like it, but is it good enough to replace some of the other items ppl normally use.

Same for Mejai although I never really liked Mejai.

Now another question is...... Abyssal Scepter or Void Staff?

Just wondering what people thoughts were for the items. :-P


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Blarfles

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12-03-2009

I'd replace the usual Mejai's with Veigar with Deathfire.

A Deathfire/Zhonya combo on Veigar is amazing now.


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SwampZero

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12-04-2009

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Now another question is...... Abyssal Scepter or Void Staff?
neither.

just rush a guise early game. +20 pen should cover you, including runes/masteries


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Rudeboymike

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12-04-2009

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neither.

just rush a guise early game. +20 pen should cover you, including runes/masteries
Dont take his word to heart. Those two items are situational. If the enemy is stacking MR or is tanky... grab Void Staff.

If you can get their MR to 0, grab Abyssal which can reduce them to -20. Im not sure if guise can reduce beyond 0. If it can, its probably a better choice.

Now choosing between MR and AP is another choice altogether. This is entirely dependent on your characters AP scaling ratios. Fiddlesticks has horrible AP scaling, making Magic Pen better. Yet Veigar scales wodnerfully well with AP, so obviously AP is better than Magic Pen.


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Charmicarmicarmicat

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12-04-2009

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Dont take his word to heart. Those two items are situational. If the enemy is stacking MR or is tanky... grab Void Staff.

If you can get their MR to 0, grab Abyssal which can reduce them to -20. Im not sure if guise can reduce beyond 0. If it can, its probably a better choice.

Now choosing between MR and AP is another choice altogether. This is entirely dependent on your characters AP scaling ratios. Fiddlesticks has horrible AP scaling, making Magic Pen better. Yet Veigar scales wodnerfully well with AP, so obviously AP is better than Magic Pen.
Guise should go on most casters, it's such a great item that fill a need for so many.


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Rudeboymike

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12-04-2009

someone mind linking me what guise actually does? ill evaluate it better that way. its not in the database i dont think.