Patch 3.03 Notes

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deadblurr

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03-03-2013

tbh ashe doesnt need to be buffed for end game but for early game her ad ratio is low her ulti is ap and all her damage is basic attack damage basically i think to increase her ad ratio or attack speed more would be usefull


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maggotslipknot

Junior Member

03-03-2013

i dont like the new chages in darius wtf riot wht you broken the champ of the game i love darius and see waht you doing D: why and alot of peple dont like the chages in the game well i know you not goin back tje chges but tink of the players to chages the champs well bye and tanks for the time


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TylerDurden411

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03-03-2013

Hardly any of the champ or item changes seemed beneficial.


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kaos master

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03-03-2013

beter nerf elise !


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DeathbyOreos

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03-04-2013

Why get rid of madreds blood razor than just make a more op version in the blade of the ruined king.


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Death1015

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03-04-2013

two things... @deathbyoreos The original madreds bloodrazor seemed to provide the wrong type of stats and encouraged an odd build choice for those who wanted to build it, so they removed it and remade it into an item that more suited the role it was meant to play: to deal damage. Also, the fact that mostly only junglers could afford to build it before, and many chose not to in order to build wriggles, which was far more gold efficient, was a crippling factor in its use. Now that the new jungler items (the spirit trio) have been implemented, Madred's bloodrazor would have been reduced to being underused and underpowered, as well as creating a void in dealing with high health targets that Deathfire grasp cannot fill on its own. Hope that helps .
Also, the Zed change was way too useless. I feel that riot games is just pushing back changes... as this makes no difference to Zed's gameplay, and instead decreases his damage overall because his Q is harder to land, as well as being more easily seen. Originally his E could sneakily attack players that didn't realize the true extent of Zed's power, many times after sacrificing his only escape to do so. I do believe the real problem is not his E's damage or his Q's damage, which now are a problem, (because of the patch), but rather his overall gameplay in that he sacrifices his only escape to deal damage many times, and his damage after before level 6 and from levels 13-18 is far too low for a traditional assassin. He's only useful middle game and late game, cannot truly contribute to teamfights, and in the most crucial point in the game, from level 13-18, cannot even fulfill his role as an assassin, due to high mobility of AD carries, outclassed damage from bruisers, and Seeker's armguard/Zhonya's hourglass. Why do i mention these seemingly obvious things^? It is because Zed is only good early-mid and late game, mostly because of the item build of many champions during this time. He can build a brutalizer early, which compounds his damage from around level 6-12. However, after 12, all champions already start to have more armor and health, which cancels out the brutalizer. Therefore, before this, he is very powerful, because of all his damage options and poke abilities. HOwever, afterwards, his poke barely hurts the enemies, because of SCALING problems. Mid to late game his enemies can simply outscale him in damage(bruisers) outtankhim(tanks/regen crazies) and outdamage him overall(AD carries). So , unless he builds bruiser as well, he cannot even face AD carries toe to toe. In order to make a non-tanky champion tanky, you need to build many many items. Thus, for Zed, his late game is so great because of the incredible scaling with these items in terms of damage. So from level 6-12 he is powerful because of brutalizer, from level 13-18 he is weak because enemies outscale him in everything, and at level 18+lots of gold he outscales them because of his W passive. Basically that's the whole gist of Zed. However, he cannot face up to other assassins because of his AD issues, and the fact that he doesn't deal much other damage. Armor is the easiest stat to build, and the addition of Seeker's Armguard cripples one of his two most effective times, from 6-12. BoTRK used to cancel this out as soon as he built it , because of the magic damage it provided, but now that it deals AD dmg, the effect is nullified. So now, he is only viable mid game as a carry killer(which isn't useful anyway because a carry deals no damage at this point unless he/she is fed) and late game, where he dominates, but late game is not what many people can get to... because of Zed's early game weakness, many games will not last until late game for Zed, so people will not be able to utilize the overwhelming power of zed late game, and subsequently Zed is still in obscurity. Simply changing two skills' dmg around shouldn't be enough for Zed, but rather a change in his early game survivability or damage. Let him fulfill his role as assassin, that others play to perfection: Akali for example. Powerful dmg from level 6 on, until late game, where she only deals great MIXED( so as not to be countered specifically from one stat) damage to AD and AP carries. This is the role of an assassin, to deal with low health targets, as well as to oneshot the carries, and to provide a bruiser style damage early to mid game.


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Vahlrok

Junior Member

03-04-2013

Good lord stop nerfing Warmogs. It was op before it was merged with Force of Nature, yes. But after the merge it was fine. Tanks can't take much more nerfing.


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FrankDlat

Junior Member

03-04-2013

hahahahaahahhahaha ANY CANT STOP THE GOD XIN ZHAO ONLY THE GMS,MAKE HIM MORE WEAK UNSKILLED PLAYERS HAHAHAHAHA XIN ZHAO THE GOD OF LEGUE OF LEGEND R.I.P :C


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derpy973

Junior Member

03-04-2013

Okay, this hate on the Darius and Xin nerfs are very much needed, not to mention the Darius nerf isn't that bad. god forbid you use skill. when you can 1v5 without a problem you need to be nerfed. that simple.


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sammywolf

Senior Member

03-04-2013

Why you nerf hecarim? He was awesome, and he definitely wasnt overpowered, so You let other champs slide, but nerf hecarim and you take away the only thing good about darius instead of nerfing his other abilities to make up for this? Wow.