New League System in Ranked

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Sir Zacharia

Junior Member

01-20-2013

It seems a little complicated. Can you draw me a picture? like this league is here and this tier is in this league like this. That sort of thing would help me visualize it better.


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01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Dane Belthound View Post
A vote system is NEEDED in ranked.

You keep complaining about how high dodge rates and rather than look into WHY people are dodging, YOU ARE TRYING TO STOP US FROM DOING IT.

We are dodging because:

1) People cannot agree on roles, they are raging and there is no chemistry or team work from the start. THis typically results in someone making a troll pick to try and force someone else on the team to dodge because we don't want to lose elo and want a competitive and serious game.

2) There is an afk who random picks and IF he comes back expects someone else to dodge. Nuff said.

3) Someone is verbally abusing and raging. They are obviously not going to work well with the team.

4) Someone is intentionally trolling because they are 12. I ran into a guy a month ago who I talked to after the queue dodge. He let me know that he had trolled 14 matches that day because he likes watching people get upset.


This isn't us trying to find a "favorable" matchup as you so ignorantly put it on a regular basis. The majority of queue dodges are us trying to find a SERIOUS, COMPETITIVE game that isn't going to be a massacre because one or more of our team mates is an incompetent nincompoop or a 12 year old rager on a power trip.




We NEED a VOTING SYSTEM. Problem solved. Your excuses in the past have be:

4 man team will abuse this.


HUH? How? Vote system would only be in ranked. There is no such thing as a 4 man team.


This would prevent people from trying new meta.

BS.

Solo/Duo ranked is not the place to EXPERIMENT. And to be honest, as long as what you suggest in ranked is reasonable, people typically don't care and IF someone objects it is not ALL four people. If ALL FOUR people object it is typically something pretty stupid. And to kick someone ALL FOUR would need to agree.

I just went garen mid a few games ago. My team was fine with that because I explained that we had an ap jungle and ap top and garen countered their mid laner. No objections. I was reasonable and it wasn't an experiment.

If you want to TRY new meta go to NORMALS OR ranked 5v5. If you want to see how a practiced, new meta works. ASK YOUR TEAM, if they disagree or are not on board and the decision is unanimous then you are out of luck. If the other four people on your team are not on board and you do it anyways, YOU ARE WORKING AGAINST YOUR TEAM. This game is about team work and when you have a rogue agent who is going to do whatever they want it is counter productive.

FORCING people to queue with idiots, afks, and trolls does not encourage team work as you might naively believe. Most people WANT to work with their team. Most do not want to work with ragers, trolls, and afks. Which is why we dodge.




This idea that you have to try and prevent dodges is stupid.
As an educator that is such an asinine way to deal with the issue because it doesn't address the issue. That is like me wanting to stop a kid from crying by removing their tear ducts and vocal chords instead of figuring out why s/he is crying and figuring out how to remedy that. YOu just see a behavior you want to stop, and instead of figuring out why it is happening you instead are trying to instill fear of consequences in us. Any behavioral health professional will tell you THAT DOES NOT WORK. Think you would have learned by now. You have taken our elo, banned us etc and it isn't working. It is just pissing people off.
im with this guy, give us in the Solo/Duo queue a vote system to End the game or remove a player who is causing the griefing/trolling . because i know if i dodge im not dodging because of matchups im dodging because of Ragers / trolls /afkers , which ruin the game.


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Era Of Dend

Junior Member

01-20-2013

So will the promotion series etc. Be like tournaments in a specific city and those qualified have to fly there? Or can we just do them from home?


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01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Yegg View Post
If you queue dodge during a Division or Promotion Series then the series will immediately be canceled and you'll have to re-qualify for the series by winning another game. It might sound harsh, but queue dodge rates in ranked are honestly too high right now, and we're not interested in having some players carefully micromanaging their series matchups at the expense of everyone else's queue times and failed lobbies.

You must make dodging a game more punishing than those 5 promotion series games if ALL were losses.Do that and people lose 15 x 5, or whatever the actual points lost per game are and i bet dodging is minimalized. Would someone really want to lose 75 of their LP points cuz someone stole their champion or the matchup seems imbalanced? It would make more sense to grin and bear it, maybe lose. and then try again to qualify for a new promotion series after just one more game or two. Whatever costs less on a per game basis is what people will do. we are selfish. we are greedy. sorry.


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ImABot777

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01-20-2013

cool


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DeadlySwordz

Junior Member

01-20-2013

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Riot copied StarCraft 2
who cares if they did. This is good to get noob players to start playing the game like myself! When does this go live?


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Bullettime7

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01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Yegg View Post
If you queue dodge during a Division or Promotion Series then the series will immediately be canceled and you'll have to re-qualify for the series by winning another game. It might sound harsh, but queue dodge rates in ranked are honestly too high right now, and we're not interested in having some players carefully micromanaging their series matchups at the expense of everyone else's queue times and failed lobbies.
Give us a way to handle the trolls and griefers in champ select and queue dodging will come down substantially. Most people dodging queues are dodging because they want a competitive match and would rather wait 30 minutes to an hour versus playing one now and having 1 or 2 people on your team griefing the others, refusing to play, feeding, or leaving.

As it stands, queue dodging from the trolls and griefers is our only way to deal with and avoid them without wasting time in a game that will typically result in an ELO loss.

I'm fine with losing a game that I get outplayed in. I'm not, however, going to stick around for a game where instead of playing ADC as the team needs, last pick locks a mid and spams "fk u noobs I no mid I feed."


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kkoottuukkoo

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01-20-2013

Geneal!


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Artoa

Junior Member

01-20-2013

is this based on how you play or still a team thing? because if its still based on team play elo hell will just have a new system as well


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MoRiSoNNN

Junior Member

01-20-2013

will my elo reset