Iceborn Gauntlet and Frozen Mallet

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ashspectatena

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12-15-2012

Does slow from Iceborn Gantlet stacks with slow from Frozen Mallet?
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ZZZappy

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12-15-2012

Slow effects derived from items' passives do NOT stack, even when coming from different champions. Only the strongest item slow is applied at any moment. The exception to this is the active effect of Randuin's Omen, Hextech Gunblade and Bilgewater Cutlass, which stacks with other slowing items normally because they are considered champion abilities for slow stacking purposes.


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neocow

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12-15-2012

No item slows stack. Passive or active or both (Gunblade will proc Rylais but only the more powerful slow will be in effect. )
ONLY the most powerful ITEM slow will have effect.


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ZZZappy

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12-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Kaladryn View Post
yes and they both also stack with rylai's. The way it stacks is multiplicative not additive so you get a greatly diminished slow but an increased slow nonetheless

edit: the dude above me is wrong. slows stack just not efficiently
You might want to go test this in a game before you say that.

To clarify, Two champions use a slowing ability. Those slows stack. One of those champions have a rylai's. That will also stack.
Now, consider that both champions use a slow ability, one of them has a rylai's, and a third champion attacks with frozen mallet, then depending on which one is slowing more, only the rylai's or only the frozen mallet will slow. The other will have no additional slowing effect.


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Guillaume Rapide

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12-15-2012

Iceborn Gauntlet and Frozen Mallet do stack. Frozen Mallet applies first and then they get affected by the field from Iceborn Gauntlet. The slow from Iceborn Gauntlet is negligible though because it only reduces their move speed by 30-70 more, but since it is AOE damage and an AOE slow it is still worth it.I Just tested it out.


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The SHP

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12-15-2012

normally slows from different sources (different debuffs) stack with all slows weaker than the strongest one being applied multiplicatively at 1/3 value (or 35%... can't remember which, but it makes no noticeable difference). But, in the case of mallet/phage/trinity, rylai's, and iceborn, all of them apply the same 'debuff'. So none of their slows will stack with one another. If multiple of them have affected the target, the largest slow is the one that is used, but none of the others will even have an effect (until the strongest one wears off, then the next strongest will take over if it still applies)


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Ursa Psi

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01-01-2013

The passive on Iceborn Gauntlet is:

Unique Passive - Spellblade: After using an ability, your next basic attack deals bonus physical damage equal to 125% of your base attack damage to surrounding enemies and creates a field for 3 seconds that slows enemies inside by 35% (2 second cooldown).


The question here shouldn't be whether or not two slowing items stack, because the Iceborn Gauntlet does not directly apply a slow, but rather creates a field around the target that slows. So the question is whether an AoE slow will stack with a on-hit slow.


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Boo the Hamster

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01-01-2013

Iceborn Gauntlet's AoE slow doesn't stack with other items. I've tried it before and it doesn't work that way. It only procs with the item that has the most slow, however, if you don't hit them and let the slow from say, rylai's or frozen mallet wear off before the AoE slow from Iceborn Gauntlet is gone, then Iceborn Gauntlet's slow will take effect.

However, Iceborn Gauntlet's slow effect is always on. If you have Frozen Mallet and Iceborn Gauntlet, you will get both the slow from Frozen Mallet and the field of slow if you use the spell blade effect The target you hit is slowed by 40% from Frozen Mallet if melee, and any other target within that field is also slowed by 35%. If you're ranged, then the slow is 35%, since ranged slows with mallet is at 30% instead of Gauntlet's 35%


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The SHP

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01-01-2013

rylai's, phage, trinity, mallet, and iceborn all place the same-named debuff on the enemy (albeit with differing strengths/durations), so no they won't stack at all. Only the strongest takes effect