Pickpocket is overrated

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ILoseByWinning

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12-04-2012

"Grants 5 gold for melee champions and 3 gold for ranged champions for each basic attack against a champion" (5 second cooldown)

The 5 second cooldown, alone, persuaded me to not pick up the mastery.

5 second cooldown when normal attack speeds for support vary from 0.6-1.0 (without zekes AS buff). That only offers a maximum of 60 gold for melees or 36 gold for ranged supports a minute. If perfectly executed, it would only be slightly better than a gp10 for a melee support and far worse than a gp10 for ranged support.

So what are supports supposed to do? Attack a enemy hero every 5 seconds? Hit once and run away? Because once you start the cooldown, there would be no point to risk dying to continue hitting an enemy champion.

And if you poke once, the enemy player can always just count out 5 seconds and expect another poke, so they can prepare to nuke the hell out of you when the cooldown is near 4 seconds.

Remove the cooldown and then pickpocket would be a worthy investment.


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Anthropics

Senior Member

12-04-2012

Remove the cooldown and pickpocket is going to be used on everyone. It's not supposed to be a free gp/10 in one mastery point.


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Buk Wild

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12-04-2012

It's the equivalent of 6 GP/10 on ranged supports

That's big


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Mister Yi

Senior Member

12-04-2012

it was looking good until i read the last line


remove the cooldown... i dont think thats a good idea boss.


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DreamLeviathan

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12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by Buk Wild View Post
It's the equivalent of 6 GP/10 on ranged supports

That's big
At max effectiveness, realistically it'll probably end up being 2-3 GP/10 if you can harass reasonably often.

Which is actually still enormous for a single mastery point! Compare to greed which is .5 gp/10 per point.


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Avedecus

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12-04-2012

It's one mastery point. What else would you spend it on?


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Hidden Sniper

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12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by Buk Wild View Post
It's the equivalent of 6 GP/10 on ranged supports

That's big
That is IF:
1) You are constantly attack an enemy champion every 5 seconds.

2) You actually sacrificed that many mastery points to go that deep into that tree


... There are trade-offs.


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Shaiandra

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12-04-2012

If you could trigger it every 5 seconds, that's 6gp10 as ranged, more than any one item provides. If you trigger it even only once a minute, that's 0.5gp10... which is as much as 1 point in Greed.

It's well worth 1 point.


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Buk Wild

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12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by Hidden Sniper View Post
That is IF:
1) You are constantly attack an enemy champion every 5 seconds.

2) You actually sacrificed that many mastery points to go that deep into that tree


... There are trade-offs.
1: If you aren't doing that then you're a bad support and have no presence in the lane anyways

and

2: Supports will and have always gone 21 in utility since last season


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Xangoo

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12-04-2012

Free gold for one point...complains about CD. If there wasn't a CD, people would just take it on Cait or someone stupid and make insane gold


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