@Lyte - Please review this case.

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IS18595c50fc785a73f8bbb

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11-29-2012

EDIT: Lyte has shown up telling me what I have done wrong, other than these cases, which is what I wanted. Status is that the punishment is justified, due to the fact that I in general tend to get agressive at Toxic players and also have a tendency to say whenever the game has been thrown. - Thanks for the reply Lyte!

EDIT 2: It appears that it will have an impact on me being able to become a featured streamer, and I while I'm sad that that is the case, then I definitely understand it when viewing things from Lyte's perspective, even though I do not view myself as a toxic player anymore.

EDIT 3: The issues has been solved. Thanks a lot to everyone supporting me - However my toxic past overrules my recent performance. If you want further discussion on the subject, feel free to use my case as basis for your request, questions or whatever. Hopefully Lyte may continue to respond to good questions. - Thanks and I hope this case does not discourage you from watching my stream - I really am not a toxic player anymore

Hello there folks.

Before reading know this: The ban is being lifted tonight, so this post is not about having my ban removed, it is about me not wanting to have my ability to be a possible featured streamer removed, and also it's me not wanting to accept a (what I believe) is an unjustified punishment.

Could you guys just give me an opinion on this case I recently received?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/457844/

And adding a little background information:
I am a 20 year old guy playing League of Legends in my spare time. I recently picked up streaming, and have had great fun as well as helped a few people improve their game(hopefully, that was the intention).

Anyway, on my stream www.twitch.tv/fredfrost I like to advocate that flaming as similar never helps, thus I haven't done that in a loooong time. (I used to be a rager back 1 year ago and before then - But these games in the case are recent ones, most happened during stream I believe - Got them recorded on my twitch channel).

Now, due to me having examinations, this has not actually caused me any problems as I havent been playing for the last 4 days.

Also, before Lyte comes in and pull out a case where I misbehaved, then I'd like to say that in the previous LOOOONG time, I have only had one game where I was being rude, and I ended up apologizing several times to the "target" of my rudeness.

Here is the post I sent to player support when I asked for the to review my case, wherein I go through every single game. Please read this as well. Also note that once again, I have the games recorded on twitch.tv/fredfrost :

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Hello there.

I got suspended today, and here is my case file: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/457844/

When I look it through, I have been reported by one person in every game. One. And let me just go through the games one by one

Game 1:
I had some internet issues (Happens when you live in a dorm - Does that mean I can't play games because other people may disrupt the internet from time to time?) - And I was reported by 1 teammate.
Note that I was 2/9/8 thus having a greater than 1:1 KDA, while Anivia was below 1:1KDA, with fewers deaths however, so I don't think I was reported for feeding in particular, since I did help my team out. (I don't actually remember this match.)

Game 2:
Taric clearly had something against my way of playing or something, as you can see from the chat. He then decided to report me as the only one, and I don't think that I was abusive - Correct me if I'm wrong.

Game 3:
Just a really bad cho'gath, why am I even reported here? I play at 2k+ rating only Shaco and fiddle, so whenever they ban those (my teamleader banned both, knowing I play them) I am forced to pick something that I don't play well. (I only play Shaco and Fiddle at 2k+ rating. I am horrible with most other champions.)

Game 4:
Reported by an enemy. I did not say one single thing the entire match in all chat. Literally nothing. - Why am I being punished here?!? My build is not to be reported for either, I just sold items before the match ended, we were winning big.

Game 5:
Look at chat, see how Lee Sin wants to report his entire team? This is just a guy who is mad because we lost. - I WAS NOT BEING ABUSIVE.

It's funny that one teammate reports me every loss, and one enemy at the win. Seriously, please check this out, and don't give me an automated response, because this does not make sense in ANY way. (In my opinion)

Sincerely, a very frustrated summoner.

Also, I am trying to become a featured streamer having over 24.000.000 viewer minutes, however this will not help me at all. Please look into it and see if it is a mistake.
And the pre-generated answer I received:

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Hello Frederik,

Both players and Riot employees viewing Tribunal Cases are provided with chat logs and other relevant stats to reach a decision. Players generally understand what sort of behavior will negatively impact other players and what conduct falls outside of what should be a positive in-game experience. Please consult the Summoner's Code (linked below) if you wish to learn more about the conduct we wish to uphold on the Fields of Justice.

If in the future your account is found to have subsequent violations against the Code of Conduct, additional evaluation and longer suspensions will occur. Further negative behavior in-game can culminate in your account being permanently banned from League of Legends.

Our goal has always been to foster a positive environment in the game where everyone can enjoy themselves, and therefore we must stand strong against negative players, harassment and abuse. If you have been on the receiving end of disruptive behavior, I think you can understand the motivation behind our actions.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.

The Summoner's Code: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/articl...Summoners_Code

Warmest Regards,

Riot Games Player Support Specialist
What do you guys think?


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Getsuei

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11-29-2012

This should have been posted in the Tribunal =)


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11-29-2012

2 of those cases I see literally no reason as to why someone would click punish.
(the Dc's dont really count as they are uncontrolable)

the bad cho game was bad, but being bad isnt supposed to be punishable.

Honestly, I would have pardoned this case had it come up for me. I dont think this was ban worthy. No raging, flaming, excessive currsing, insulting, intentionall feeding or trolling.

Unjust ban imo.

especially that enemy report case.

Literally 0 ALL chat in the game. No reason an enemy had to report you at all.


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IS18595c50fc785a73f8bbb

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11-29-2012

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Originally Posted by Getsuei View Post
This should have been posted in the Tribunal =)
Yeah, I should have, however I want opinions, and GD is the place for that in general.

Sorry, should have posted it in the proper section anyway :/


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Pawstruck

Senior Member

11-29-2012

WOW. Wow wow wow. This is the most blatant case of Pardon I have ever seen, yet you got punished.

People don't even say what they reported you for, and we can't see why they did so. You maintain your cool even when trolled by Lee Sin in Game 5.

What a joke. Sick miscarriage of justice. Makes me never want to to Tribunal.


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IS18595c50fc785a73f8bbb

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11-29-2012

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Originally Posted by DreadAssassin View Post
2 of those cases I see literally no reason as to why someone would click punish.
(the Dc's dont really count as they are uncontrolable)

the bad cho game was bad, but being bad isnt supposed to be punishable.

Honestly, I would have pardoned this case had it come up for me. I dont think this was ban worthy. No raging, flaming, excessive currsing, insulting, intentionall feeding or trolling.

Unjust ban imo.

especially that enemy report case.

Literally 0 ALL chat in the game. No reason an enemy had to report you at all.
So you see it as I see it.

I'd really like to hear someone that would punish me for this, to say why.

Also note that I'm not a good player, I play at 2k+ elo right now, but I only play 2 champions. So when they get banned out (by my own captain in this case(Shaco and Fiddle)) then I won't do as well as I normally would have, and might end up getting a bad score, because I like to try, instead of just AFK farming.


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Pawstruck

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11-29-2012

Please post the reply (or replies) that you get from support. I will help you bump this **** 'till you do. This is a joke.


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IS18595c50fc785a73f8bbb

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11-29-2012

Also guys, it's not the ban I care about, its over tonight but I wont be able to play before next friday anyway, it's more that I actually got punished unjustly (IMO) and whether it will affect my featured streamer application.


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IS18595c50fc785a73f8bbb

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11-29-2012

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Originally Posted by Pawstruck View Post
Please post the reply (or replies) that you get from support. I will help you bump this **** 'till you do. This is a joke.
Support thread: (Not showing the 2 already shown, showing from after the RIOT answer)

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I don't want to come off rude here, but did you even read my post?
I'm asking for you to review it, as sometimes these mistakes happens (seen it on the forums). If you do not wish to help me, could you forward my request to someone that actually cares about individial players? - I.e. Lyte

I really don't want to go to the forums / reddit with this, but seeing as you dish out bans for having 2 games with bad internet, a game that I play bad(IS THAT REALLY BANNABLE TO PLAY BAD??), being reported by not saying a single thing, nothing, and by some guy who reported his entire team, I might consider doing so.

Also, if this is keeping me from being considered a featured streamer, and you just give a computer generated answer, then you aren't very considerate of others
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Addition to above; I know the Summoner Code, and I am arguing that I in no WAY broke it here. No harassment or abuse was done in any of the cases, so why would you even talk about that? Please give me a real answer and stop your pre-generated answers I have read the FAQ as well, I do not need it linked here either.
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Greetings Summoner,

We have already explained the context for the action taken against your account and given you the tools to prevent it from reoccurring in the future.

We will not be reversing this decision and consider this matter closed. If you still do not agree or understand the context of this action feel free to discuss this decision on our Tribunal forums listed below:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...ay.php?s=&f=41

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board...splay.php?f=85

http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/boar...splay.php?f=85

Warmest Regards,

Riot Games Player Support Specialist
Then I chose to post on GD due to the increased amount of summoners using that forum.


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Purse Wayde

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11-29-2012

that fiddle build


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