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Mecha Kha'Zix vs Eternum Nocturne (discussion about skin price)

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Lukiner

Senior Member

11-22-2012

or I should say Mecha Nocturne vs Mecha Kha'Zix?

I watched unofficial skin spotlight, checked this skin on PBE and even read mass of comments and I'm really wondering if Mecha/Eternum Nocturne should be priced as 1820RP as pure legendary skin....

mecha Kha'Zix not official spotlight = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BASPX_QLQfs (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBASPX_QLQfs)
me..eternum Nocturne not official spotlight = http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eRuPLMxw4bM (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26amp%3Bv%3DeRuPLMxw4bM)

let's compare both skins:

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http://i.imgur.com/VgEOy.png (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVgEOy.png)

well those skins are quite similar with few exceptions... so imho new Nocturne skin should be priced as 1350 even if he is slightly upgraded version of mecha kha'zix. Also last legendary skin was also robotic/mecha related = Battlecast Prime Cho'Gath. Riot lost their touch in doing original legendary skins and now we will have only series of sci-fi robotic skins?

I would totally agree for 1820 or even 3250 (1625 discount for 1st four days) IF:
a) he will also have changed animation for his ultimate dash => distortion/blur around him other cool effect while he is "flying"/dashing to his target
b) darknessssssssss returned to his ultimate quote => come on riot? two of his ult quote are boring roars?
c) his blades should be bigger/longer a bit => compared to the other skins they are so short
d) umbra blades receive even small visual effect
e) if someone buy this skin he will receive badass summoner icon at least OR/AND summoner profile banner

ALSO!
RIOT Y U NO DO EPIC TRAILER AND THEME SONG FOR THIS SKIN IF IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE LEGENDARY!? :O

Brolaf, the King of Bromacia = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVLWKsO6CQ (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMnVLWKsO6CQ) + theme song "Slinky Instrumental" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj4blKxvWzc (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dwj4blKxvWzc)
Demonblade Tryndamere = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iojE9bAdqPM (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiojE9bAdqPM)
Blood Lord Vladimir = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Ar9xDjs9M&feature=plcp (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX2Ar9xDjs9M%26amp%3Bfeature%3Dplcp) + theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSAhx90_lPY (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPSAhx90_lPY)
Battlecast Prime Cho'gath = teaser http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2424352 + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWcTjmIXQOc (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxWcTjmIXQOc) theme song http://soundcloud.com/leagueoflegends/battlecast-prime-cho-gath (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fleagueoflegends%2Fbattlecast-prime-cho-gath)
Gatekeeper Galio = theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acFAWADHeZM (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DacFAWADHeZM)
Pulsefire Ezreal = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ebQTanjbys (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7ebQTanjbys) + theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncAtymrihNA (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DncAtymrihNA)
NuNu bot = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hotD5XoMmE (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/redirect.php?do=verify&redirect_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8hotD5XoMmE)

TL : DR
IMHO new Nocturne skin should cost 1350 RP unless RIOT
will improve it more and add little bonus in form of icon/banner for everyone who buy it


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Echorion

Senior Member

11-22-2012

I say replace "Darrrknesssss" with
"Suffer Eternaallllllyyyyyy" or something along those lines. It's new, but still better than "Ssaargghhhhh!!!"
Also I agree, umbra blades needs a more noticeable effect.


Upvoted, but,
That being said I still think it is worth Legendary price, adds more particle effects than Zix's skin, isn't a launch skin, has more NEW voice options, not just a modified one but an entire batch. New animations too, Zix uses a lot of the same ones. Sorry but I think you are wrong in that aspect.


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namora

Senior Member

11-22-2012

There's an added passive sound effect to tiamat/hydra, what more do you need? But seriously, there's no comparison to mecha anything here, Nocturne looks badass in his new get-up.

However, if they put him on live the way he is now, I'd probably wouldn't buy him unless he went on sale.
In other words, I don't think there's a comparison, but I do think it's slightly overpriced.

TL;DR
Too bad.


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xkhazixmaster18

Senior Member

11-22-2012

Mecha Kha'zix was put as 1350 IP because most champions join the league with a 975 IP skin but the amount of effort required to do Mecha Kha'zix made it fall in the realm of a legendary class skin. Rather than charging people an arm and a leg for it, Riot decided to cut people a break and put it out for 1350 IP.

Eternum nocturne has completely new particles for all of his abilities, new textures and a *****ing movement animation. IMO the only thing stopping him from being a "Theme" is the lack of a new icon/wtvr else pulse-fire ezreal had.

He'd be an insta buy in my book if it weren't for that tail. They should really think about redoing that tail. He's the shadow of death, not a generic robotic monster.


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plasmatorture

Recruiter

11-22-2012

Quote:
xasifx:
Mecha Kha'zix was put as 1350 IP because most champions join the league with a 975 IP skin but the amount of effort required to do Mecha Kha'zix made it fall in the realm of a legendary class skin. Rather than charging people an arm and a leg for it, Riot decided to cut people a break and put it out for 1350 IP.

Eternum nocturne has completely new particles for all of his abilities, new textures and a *****ing movement animation. IMO the only thing stopping him from being a "Theme" is the lack of a new icon/wtvr else pulse-fire ezreal had.

He'd be an insta buy in my book if it weren't for that tail. They should really think about redoing that tail. He's the shadow of death, not a generic robotic monster.


But he doesn't evolve while leveling, have a jetpack, custom kill animations and announcer, etc. etc.

Eternum Nocturne is nowhere near the level of PFE.


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Hefasto

Member

11-22-2012

Quote:
plasmatorture:
But he doesn't evolve while leveling, have a jetpack, custom kill animations and announcer, etc. etc.

Eternum Nocturne is nowhere near the level of PFE.


even if he isn't close to PFE they could at least give summoner icon and banner for buying this skin.

after all his artwork looks so badass so banner made from it or Summoner icon with his modified ULT icon or crossed tech blade would kick ass


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LivesToFeed

Member

11-22-2012

im with the tail hate thing just looks stupid, looks like im sticking to halloween nocturne


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Hefasto

Member

11-22-2012

Quote:
LivesToFeed:
im with the tail hate thing just looks stupid, looks like im sticking to halloween nocturne


tail actually looks great


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Wodan

Senior Member

11-22-2012

His ult should make a Warning siren blare for the duration of the blind.


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