Lightbringer (OP updated)

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Revenant0

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11-19-2012

Nome have you tried to make the on-hit sight with a cd, like Ziggs passive?


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Warbane

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11-19-2012

Why not make it so when it upgrades make it so the actives range is doubled but the amount revealed is smaller, the auto attack reveal stacking with it means it should probably be a little more expensive though.
You could also have it so Grezes is a base item that builds into the Lightbringer and also a remade Vann Dammes Pillager - Lantern + brutalizer = spellvamp item with armor pen and cooldown reduct armor and lifesteal and make it so auto attacks reveal a large area around the enemy? (less for ranged?)


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FOODFOOD

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11-19-2012

Why don't you keep lightbringer and give it the Grez active, instead of the other way around?


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Nome or Die

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11-19-2012
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Why don't you keep lightbringer and give it the Grez active, instead of the other way around?
There's a billion attack speed options in S3, so I'm hesitant to keep Lightbringer as-is in terms of components.


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FOODFOOD

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11-19-2012

Well darn. And it was such an awesome item on Vayne


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Warbane

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11-19-2012

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There's a billion attack speed options in S3, so I'm hesitant to keep Lightbringer as-is in terms of components.
Then why not make it so the Lightbringer combines from Grez's and from Last Whisper, making it an end game option for ranged dps to have armor pen and damage, while being able to reveal in an area of effect on anyone hit?


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MyDeadGrandma

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11-19-2012

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Then why not make it so the Lightbringer combines from Grez's and from Last Whisper, making it an end game option for ranged dps to have armor pen and damage, while being able to reveal in an area of effect on anyone hit?
That kinda wanders into the realm of 'nice item after my defensive stuff' for tanky derps


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FOODFOOD

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11-19-2012

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Then why not make it so the Lightbringer combines from Grez's and from Last Whisper, making it an end game option for ranged dps to have armor pen and damage, while being able to reveal in an area of effect on anyone hit?
This item should be made for AD carries, not Bruisers/AD Casters (with exceptions). If you combine it with Last Whisper, people like Wu Kong, Darius, Urgot, Jayce - they'll all make it a part of their core. And that's not what we need...


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Warbane

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11-19-2012

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This item should be made for AD carries, not Bruisers/AD Casters (with exceptions). If you combine it with Last Whisper, people like Wu Kong, Darius, Urgot, Jayce - they'll all make it a part of their core. And that's not what we need...
Thats just not true though, Last whisper IS an AD carry central item, the attack speed is already off the table, But armor pen and revealing in an AREA per attack would be amazing, life steal and armor arent bad additions for an AD carry either, honestly.


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FDru

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11-19-2012

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UPDATE: I'm going to pull over Grez's Spectral Lantern from Twisted Treeline for 1.72. This and Lightbringer will co-exist for a patch; we'll see how it plays out. Eventually, we may do something like make Lightbringer build out of Grez's so it has the active.
Grez is decent but Madred's Razors is really horrible in Dominion.

It will be nice to have a reveal option for AD champs anyway, though.