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@IronStylus: I am very disappointed in you and the art team.

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Gespens

Senior Member

11-16-2012

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ummm, probably the same way that having all females in media that are all uneducated housewives would affect women

Such as...?

I watch a lot of ecchi anime and I still can't think of any 'uneducated housewife' characters.


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Carmilia

Senior Member

11-16-2012

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TheGreatDecay:
She isn't big breasted? This is the whole thing that people have a problem with. Her breasts are, at the very least, above average. This is the whole thing.

Because you see things like this so much you start to think its normal. You're just proving the point further and further, and digging yourself deeper. She's not even that exposed? Could you imagine if your mother dressed that way? Would she still be "not that exposed?"

And comparing bad things to worse things doesn't make the bad things better.


I already tried her in the PBE. You think her breasts are above average is just simply pointing out ignorance. The camera plane will never, EVER point out @ her cleavage due to her idle stance. Reason i'll keep pointing out, that you people overexagerate things. As well, as i dont even find her cleavage that monstruous as you people want it to be.

And please, do not convince me that i'm falling deeper and deeper into a world where the woman's super oversexualized or anything like that. Like i said, when it comes to fantasy related stuff, i wont be giving a ****. Simply, because its a god damn frigging fantasy based game, and it will never. EVER. have nothing to do with the world out side.


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Bad Luck Braum

Senior Member

11-16-2012

how does this thread have 177+ downvotes and isn't closed


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Mindllapse

Senior Member

11-16-2012

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Gespens:
Such as...?

I watch a lot of ecchi anime and I still can't think of any 'uneducated housewife' characters.


I'm talking about historically. You do realize that having portrayals of women in media as being educated or skilled or professional and etc, has started happening within the past 5 decades right?


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Carmilia

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11-16-2012

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how does this thread have 177+ downvotes and isn't closed


God knows, but feminists can be really irritating sometimes.


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TheGreatDecay

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11-16-2012

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Gespens:
Adults don't care what people are interested in unless it affects them directly. In what way does having sexy females in media affect you, as a person. Answer me this.


"Adults."

Right here you are assuming that the person you're speaking to isn't and adult, and likewise generalizing all adults to what you've seen in them. That is very childish of you. Why would all adults not care simply on the fact that they're adults. Its simple; they don't. People are different from eachother throughout all stages of life.

Not all feminists have problems with sexualization or nudity. I'm guessing your "feminist environment" is liberal in the very least.


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Gespens

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11-16-2012

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Don't encourage social apathy kthx. If people know something is wrong they will speak out about it and that's the right thing to do. If you don't agree just say so but don't tell other people speaking out is worthless.

No, if people know something is wrong, they will petition for it to change. Speaking out on a forum is absolutely useless.

I'm not encouraging social apathy by saying that adults don't care unless it affects them. The ones who do care are in a minority.


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Mindllapse

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11-16-2012

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TheGreatDecay:
"Adults."

Right here you are assuming that the person you're speaking to isn't and adult, and likewise generalizing all adults to what you've seen in them. That is very childish of you. Why would all adults not care simply on the fact that they're adults. Its simple; they don't. People are different from eachother throughout all stages of life.

Not all feminists have problems with sexualization or nudity. I'm guessing your "feminist environment" is liberal in the very least.


Liberal feminists are really silly. They want to be on the same level as males in order to be equal to males, but they don't realize that males are horrendously unequal, and thus exploitation continues under liberal feminism, as well as being hidden because people believe equality of opportunity is more important than equality of recognition. I mean sure liberalism has its merits, but as far as exposing and eradicating exploitation goes, it's a terrible method.

it's all about radical feminism, Marxist feminism, and socialist feminism


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TheGreatDecay

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11-16-2012

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Carmilia:
I already tried her in the PBE. You think her breasts are above average is just simply pointing out ignorance. The camera plane will never, EVER point out @ her cleavage due to her idle stance. Reason i'll keep pointing out, that you people overexagerate things. As well, as i dont even find that monstruous as you people want it to be.

And please, do not convince me that i'm falling deeper and deeper into a world where the woman's super oversexualized or anything like that. Like i said, when it comes to fantasy related stuff, i wont be giving a ****. Simply, because its a god damn frigging fantasy based game, and it will never. EVER. have nothing to do with the world out side.


Why I agree! It will never have nothing to do with the outside world. The portrayals of women in games effect how men treat women in the outside world, as well as pushing away potential customers who are put off(customers are part of the outside world too!).

Anyway, watch the video in the first post maybe? Its extremely obvious in her idle stance and you're full of ****.


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Gløry

Senior Member

11-16-2012

Should have gone with the half fish, half human mermaid, with long, curly hair that fully covers the breasts, with no garments. Could be pulled off extremely tastefully and could show as much or as little cleavage as you like, depending on breast size.

instead we have this horrifying fish-scales-peeled-back-to-reveal-human-breasts monstrosity. Seriously, it's nightmare inducing and seriously NOT SEXY when you stop to consider it. If the rest of the character design was supposed to be creepy and unsettling it would work fine. But instead she has giant doe eyes and her V/A is downright adorable. The cognitive dissonance is overwhelming.

I'm really interested in her mechanically, but she's not cohesive aesthetically.

Either go for creepy ****ing scary beowulf sea witch, who is more horrifying due to the fact that she's supposed to be sexy, but CAN'T be seen as sexy by humans, or go for adorable little mermaid girl

but for the love of god don't mix them together.