@IronStylus: I am very disappointed in you and the art team.

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ArlanKels

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11-17-2012

Seriously this is your problem?

Look at Lux.
LOOK AT HER

Then weep, weep for her. She's crippled for life. Her spine is all..and her just overall placement of body parts. Everything! It makes me feel bad for her.


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EnderForHegemon

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11-17-2012

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Originally Posted by IronStylus View Post
50 pages.. no way I can read every one of these posts. To sum up though, despite what you may think, I am not the single point of failure in a scenario where a busty lady makes it through our pipeline. I'm here to be one of many voices that chimes in when appropriate. Can I flip a table or two? Absolutely, if I deem it unnecessary. I really wasn't too terribly concerned about Nami because, well, I think she's a cool design.

Did I notice the ruffles revealing some fish flesh? Yeah, I saw it months ago. Did I think it was particularly a good idea to poo-poo the design when it was on its way, when it was gathering momentum, and when it was being passionately worked on by the artist? Hell no. This will be this particular artist's first champion ever in the game. It's her show in that regard. I didn't find the cleavage to be a monumental red flag.

When I saw the concept I was like.. look at this stuff, isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think this concept's complete? Wouldn't you think she's the girl, the girl that has, everything? Look at those frills, how they unfold. How many wonders can one mermaid hold? Looking around here you think, sure, she's got everything. She's got flippers and scepters a plenty. She's got dashes and splashes galore. You want complementary curves? She's got twenty. But who cares, no big deal, she wants more.

She wants to be where the players are, she wants to see, wants to see them fighting, thinking inside of those, what do you call them? Oh, brains! Flipping to mid you don't get to far. Supports are required for healing, casting, strolling along on that.. what's that word again? Lane! Up where they toss, up where they stun, up where they lane all day in the sun, wandering free, wished she could be, part of that role.

What would she pay, if she could play, out of those waters? What sort of gift, would let her lift, up to the game? Betcha in the rift, they get the drift, that they appreciate their healers. Crowd controllers, supporting rollers, ready to sustain, and ready to help with Carry's job. Lock up the gankers and get some assists. What's a Baron, and how does it, what's the word? Buff! When's it enough? Wouldn't they love, love to play some support up above?

Out of the sea.

Wished she could be.

Part of that roll.



..tune in next time when I explain our champion creation process akin to how the mice put together Cinderella's dress.
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parentheses

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11-17-2012

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On another note, after reading IronStylus's post I realized "Hey Nami is a mermaid. So is Ariel." Ariel as a mermaid didn't wear clothes did she, besides her seashell bra? Why does Nami have to be fully clothed or look like the most obscure version of a mermaid (e.g. almost completely a fish / monster)? Mermaid by definition is a being with the lower body of a fish and the upper body of a human. I'm pretty sure the upper body of a human doesn't have much to do with fish (No scales, no gills, no fins, etc.) I think the way Nami is portrayed was done very well, and keeps it not only classy, but consistent with the lore of mermaids in general.
People keep holding up Ariel as some paragon of mermaid-dom and also a completely awesome female character.

Ariel is a girl who runs away from a secure home environment and gives up her voice for a guy she hasn't even spoken to once. It sends the message to little girls that "oh, you don't need to talk - just look good!" Holding Ariel up as an example of why Nami isn't sexualized doesn't work too well.


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Phourc

Senior Member

11-17-2012

So... not reading 102 pages, but just posting to say the fish equivalent of a low-cut sweater is a lot better than certain other champions... I mean, how often do you see a mermaid who isn't either in a bikini or topless?

Props for finding a pretty unique spin on the trope, unnamed female artist who designed Nami!


Also, well trolled Ironstylus.


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Magi Homura

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11-17-2012

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Originally Posted by ArlanKels View Post
Seriously this is your problem?

Look at Lux.
LOOK AT HER

Then weep, weep for her. She's crippled for life. Her spine is all..and her just overall placement of body parts. Everything! It makes me feel bad for her.
Lux will forever have horrible splashart.


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Mizuen

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11-17-2012

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EDIT: Based on forum consensus, I have uploaded new original concept art for a Riot champ that everyone would approve of judging by this thread.

EDIT: 448 downvotes - I sure am popular! I don't want to take way your boobs, people, stop freaking out. I just want some other options.

EDIT: Made this post, went to bed, and it exploded. +83 downvotes and 27 pages later I don't know quite where to start. Not sure why I'm getting downvotes unless people are just assuming that I'm "anti-boobs" - which is not true. Fact is, Riot has made two female champs with huge breasts that did not need breasts as part of their character design. Nami and Elise are not seductresses - they don't need huge racks. I have no problem with fantasy and I understand why characters like MF or Ahri need to be boobilicious but huge breasts make no sense for a majority of Riot's female characters.


After all of the comments you have made about giving us more female body types, you release two female champions one after another with huge cleavage on display.

Why did Elise need huge breasts that literally HEAVE up and down in her login screen? She is a spider - the perfect opportunity for you guys to make a truly monstrous female champion.

I thought to myself, "Ok, maybe the next female champ will be better."

I just saw Nami's in game model and art. Again, we have prominent breasts on display for absolutely zero reason. You could have gone a number of other directions with this and made it more unique and much much cooler without making another BOOBFEST champ.

I remember after Elise came out people were disappointed about her character design and you replied to a forum thread saying that you would address our concerns.

They weren't address and now we have Nami. I probably won't even buy her although I main support. I just can't support Riot saying one thing and then doing another as far as female champ design anymore.

EDIT: Here are some screenshots for those that are wondering what I'm talking about because Nami is "omg lol a fish so how could she have boobs."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xgAsff_kG2U/UKXPfvpOEAI/AAAAAAAAKAY/sEKFM3QoyQY/s1600/nami.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z8dPIbhN9Hc/UKXSFC0ySUI/AAAAAAAAKAw/I3H0ZR_0VvY/s1600/mermmy.png

Also, check out the video of Nami in action next to Kat - Kat seems like she'd be a much more sexualized character but Nami's breasts are much more prominently on display and more obvious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-CfHApTyBM
blah, accidental upvote. Enjoy it, it's the only one you'll get.


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TehLiz

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11-17-2012

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Best red post ever.

You guys should have an awards ceremony where we vote for best post by a red.

This would win so hard.
I agree, best Riot post EVER!


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missymoaw

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11-17-2012

i like her skin...


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missymoaw

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11-17-2012

I like her skin.....


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Ephemis

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11-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Magi Homura View Post
Lux will forever have horrible splashart.
Are you kidding me? Lux splash art makes the other middle lane crawl into a corner and cry. I love her splash art.