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King Mog

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11-13-2012

Does the lifesteal work on all cleave dmg dealt by hydra? And does it factore in all your life steal?


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Lebrante

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11-13-2012

xyp, i know this is a tread for ad itens but leblanc and veigar will receive buffs or itens to compensate the cdr removal from dfg? man, that 15% cdr was a huge indirect nerf for both


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Yojimaru

Member

11-13-2012

Does Tiamat/Hydra work with Wukong's ult? Seems to have a delightfully evil synergy to me.


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LordTobiothan

Senior Member

11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post

It's actually functionally impossible to deal physical damage that bypasses armor in our engine - so the quasi-true damage part was never true.
untrue, if you lowered a minions armor to zero shot it with a timated parrly the secondary target USED to take damage as if he had the minions zero armor, so it was quasi-true damage.


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crowsntacos

Senior Member

11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Yes - but mostly because Kage's has an upgrade that keeps the GP/10 component of it.
A GP/10 item that has a gp/10 upgrade..that's a bit scary to think about..


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exe3

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11-13-2012

You'll probably hold off answering this until you reveal the item but since Tiamat/Hydra is melee only will the ranged AoE item also be ranged only?


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Xypherous

Systems Designer

11-13-2012
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how will this new item interact with clone/pets such as Yorik ult, Morde ult, or Shaco Clone...or Elise's spiderlings? As in, if the cloned champ has Tiamat/Ravenous, will the clone/pet itself proc its effect with its auto-attacks?
Also, a little cheating here, but looking at LoL wiki's list of on-hit effect related abilities, will this new item interact as imagined with: Master Yi's passive, Fizz's Urchin Strike (Q), and Irelia's ult (especially curious with this one)?
There are more instances, but those have been answered already (WW, GP, Rene, Shyv)
Also, continuing on with abilities that splash already...will it stack with Diana's passive and Nocturne's passive? (Malph's already answered for)
Another thing is how will it interact with Cho's passive spikes, Udyr's phoenix form, Morde's Q, and Voli's thunder claws?
It's an on-hit effect, which follows our standard on-hit effect rules.

So Fizz, yes.
Master Yi, yes, twice.
Morde's Q, yes.
Morde's Ghosts, yes.
Elise's Spiders, no.
Spikes / Phoenix / Thunder Claws - no - but these character's basic attacks will apply the tiamat cleave, so they will work with each other, it's just that the magic damage splash attack won't trigger tiamat.

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Tiamat/Hydra and Sheen/Trinity Force/Lich Bane procs are not going to spread to to the 'cleaved' targets, just the primary target for that individual proc, right?
Just the primary target, yes. Sheen + Tiamat is worse now, unfortunately.

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Does the lifesteal work on all cleave dmg dealt by hydra? And does it factore in all your life steal?
Yes.

Does it factor in all your life steal - Currently, no. We're tweaking the ratio of this - but right now it uses 50% of your life steal for the AoE portion of it - but we're still tuning.


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TrololoZeus

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11-13-2012

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yes - but mostly because kage's has an upgrade that keeps the gp/10 component of it.
spoiler!!!! Thx!!!


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Mo00se

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11-13-2012

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Yes - but mostly because Kage's has an upgrade that keeps the GP/10 component of it.

dropped another bombshell.. :P


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mambawarrior0

Senior Member

11-13-2012

Will lifesteal be applied at a third of effectiveness for this item the way spellvamp is for AoE abilities?