I want a new AP mid Swain or Ahri ?

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Elite Archer

Junior Member

11-11-2012

Hi, well i'm searching for a new ap mid and i'm between this two. Who ? and Why ?
Pd: Sorry for the grammar errors. If i have... Ty


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Barso55

Senior Member

11-11-2012

swain is harder to play. more teamfight presence and such. Ahri is a 'better' mid. more mobility and single target damage. swain has good sustain. just last hit and farm with your w+r when your mana isnt low. different champs. different playstyles. protip - farm with w+r then last hit the minions


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Slashinghardest

Senior Member

11-11-2012

Swain is definitely a stronger mid but Ahri is way easier.

1. Swain can sustain mana and hp ahri can only sustain hp.
2. ahri has ok mobility with her ult, swain has nearly no mobility.
3. swain has multi-target damage and the ability to amplify his damage on a target, a slow and an aoe snare.
4. both really durable by late game.
5. ahri can hit multiple people and has true damage and a charm.


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TBN Terror

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Junior Member

11-11-2012

Since I don't personally play either frequently I'll give an explanation for picking both ways...

Swain:

Pros
-High Sustain
-High Damage over Time effects for constant pressure
-Snare can help set up kills
-Somewhat tanky
-Regenerates mana every KB

Cons
-Burst is very combo dependent
-Missing a snare can often result in missing a kill
-Ultimate is very mana heavy to keep up for long durations
-Only skillshot is your snare, making poke harass difficult
-Ignite shuts down a lot of your sustain from your ulti, making it a mana waster during this time
-Cleanse absolutely DESTROYS your damage if they use it on your combo, since all your damage is DoTs and a snare

Ahri:

Pros
-Hard to counter
-High burst
-True damage on her Q's return path
-Champion-prioritizing damage from W
-Charm can set up a kill easily
-Ultimate provides an escape as well as extra damage
-Poke harass is easy as long as you can hit your Q

Cons
-Lower sustain than a champion like Swain
-More skillshot dependent (could be a pro based on your playstyle)
-Swain's DoTs provide more constant pressure while Ahri focuses on short bursts of damage
-More squishy than Swain, similar to other mid champs
-Silence/other CC can completely shut down your burst (whereas Swain's damage is more DoT dependent, therefore harder to shut down)
-Not as good of a champ unless you play aggressively, which can be hard if other lanes are not winning their lanes

Personally I prefer Ahri because I find her more fun, but I enjoy playing both champs. Hope this helps!


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xXCFXx Avenger

Senior Member

11-11-2012

^ very accurate post above me. I think that Swain can carry harder in ranked as well.


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Elite Archer

Junior Member

11-11-2012

okay but who its more effective ? i mean who aport more for the TF i like ahri its fun, its a great champion but i never played swain so ignite destroys swain but his spells are great snare,slow,spellvamp with R idk i need more suggestions. (sorry for the grammar xD )


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Brycearoni

Member

11-11-2012

Basically:

Play Swain if your team needs CC and more DPS.

Play Ahri if your team needs more Burst and overall Damage.


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Brycearoni

Member

11-11-2012

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Originally Posted by avenger2142 View Post
^ very accurate post above me. I think that Swain can carry harder in ranked as well.
Not entirely, Ahri is banned almost always at the competitive level because of her dangerously high mobility, and it's for that reason that a competent Ahri can outclass a competent Swain.


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mnun

Senior Member

11-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Brycearoni View Post
Not entirely, Ahri is banned almost always at the competitive level because of her dangerously high mobility, and it's for that reason that a competent Ahri can outclass a competent Swain.
I still prefer Swain, to me he's more dangerous when fed than a fed ahri


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Elite Archer

Junior Member

11-11-2012

Finally, swain it's more recommended ? I'm not play ranked i'm only have 294 victories


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