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Item Preview – Dust Sweeping

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Surakai

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Fiestero:
This doesnt look good for junglers. Strong jungle + more wards.

S3 starts looking pretty hard for junglers.



looks much easier for farming junglers though, and maybe it won't compel laners to cry as hard for ganks, lol.


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Orders Sol

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Rockpops:
Except it does. If a buy a sightstone and consistently ward with it, and the enemy support does not and buys his wards. I will slowly gain a gold lead on him by not paying for wards.

You misunderstood his point. He meant that warding is useless if you play passive since if you play too passive you wouldnt need wards anyway since you can easily retreat to your tower.
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Fox P McCloud:
So they only have to buy 1-2 wards themselves each time they go back to solve that issue---so once you've placed 4 wards from this new item, you're actually in theory saving up to 300 gold for yourself each time you go back---the theoretical gold this item will "generate" for supports is insane over the course of a typical game.

That's the point. Supports don't get much gold since they are 0 cs. This is to provide them options to buy items later in the game.


@Xypherous- Can we get Blade of the Ruined King to do Max HP instead of Current? Up the price to 3k total or something


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Xypherous

Systems Designer

11-09-2012

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or this, it all comes down to sightstone's upgrade path, even then tho, sightstone will still be a set item, that you MUST get, EVERY game.
Indeed - I thought about this pretty hard - and came out the other side with - what is the alternative? What is the set item that you must get every game?

A stack of wards that continuously consume gold every minute of the game.

You see the problem of pigeonholing supports is an odd one - mostly because supports are pigeonholed into getting zero items at the moment - due to the high price of consumables.


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MaruFrozen

Senior Member

11-09-2012

Ionic spark inferior to wits end? What the ****? It does 3 times as much damage AND hits multiple targets. It's only downside is the 'takes 4 hits to proc' and even then it was still superior for team fights and glistened like gold on Shyvvanna since you could proc it, hit q and proc it almost instantly again.

Bloodrazer's % of max HP is being replaced by % of current hp. It's going to be an awful item for weakened targets and the slow? why would an AD carry want a one time slow? this kind of item will be more popular on bruisers who need gap closers.

This list of items being removed is utterly stupid and the reasons behind many of them is 'the stats are confusing'. So instead of tweaking them you remove them? Where will the 'options' be then? When you remove something you should be replacing it!

Yeah right. Awful logic.


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Patroks

Recruiter

11-09-2012

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RamserX:
or this, it all comes down to sightstone's upgrade path, even then tho, sightstone will still be a set item, that you MUST get, EVERY game. (so much for non static builds right?)

Idk, some people at low elo might think wards are overrated.


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Allan Harper

Senior Member

11-09-2012

Will there be upgrades for Haunting Guise on Summoners Rift?

How is Locket of the Iron Solari build now?


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chumbler

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Xypherous:
Indeed - I thought about this pretty hard - and came out the other side with - what is the alternative? What is the set item that you must get every game?

A stack of wards that continuously consume gold every minute of the game.


No, the alternative is now there are 2 set items, sightstone and a stack of wards.

Don't implement sightstone. It's a horrible idea. Remove the rest of the gp10 items while you're at it.

Also maybe try addressing the actual cause of all these problems, which is the ridiculous AD carry scaling that comes from crits.


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Zerglinator

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Xypherous:
Indeed - I thought about this pretty hard - and came out the other side with - what is the alternative? What is the set item that you must get every game?

A stack of wards that continuously consume gold every minute of the game.

You see the problem of pigeonholing supports is an odd one - mostly because supports are pigeonholed into getting zero items at the moment - due to the high price of consumables.

Are you saying a new item will drain gold? Oh lordy lordy.


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Patroks

Recruiter

11-09-2012

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Allan Harper:
Will there be upgrades for Haunting Guise on Summoners Rift?

How is Locket of the Iron Solari build now?

This. I've gotten into Haunting Guise, and love it, but it has no upgrades . Also, are there any plans for RoA?


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Yasuchika

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Xypherous:
Indeed - I thought about this pretty hard - and came out the other side with - what is the alternative? What is the set item that you must get every game?

A stack of wards that continuously consume gold every minute of the game.


I do not think that introducing this item will change the requirement of having to carry additional wards around, it only delays the problem until mid-game.