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Yasuchika

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11-09-2012

I worry that the Sightstone will just end up leaving supports with 4 item slots instead of the current 5.


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Rockpops

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11-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Here's the core difference - Sightstone doesn't net you advantage if you are passive. Having wards provides safety - but Heart of Gold actually nets you advantage by passive play due to your passive GP/10 will override the value of active play.

You're not going to win the lane any harder by being safe - whereas HoG causes you to win the lane harder by being hard to burst.
Except it does. If a buy a sightstone and consistently ward with it, and the enemy support does not and buys his wards. I will slowly gain a gold lead on him by not paying for wards.


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King Cube

Senior Member

11-09-2012

Xypherous I implore you


please remove the trinity of Leviathan, Mejai's Soulstealer and Sword of the Occult.

They provide nothing positive to this game. They encourage snowballing, smurfing and anti-teamplay (killstealing for stacks).


Their design is outdated and they should be removed because all they do is bring a negative aspect to league of legends.

Thanks if you read this post and double thanks if you respond to it (triple if you agree).


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Kraemer

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11-09-2012

Mind speaking on the stats for Hunter's Machete Xyph?


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KevinDelMarr

Senior Member

11-09-2012

So will Ruby Crystal be altered as well? The only difference from the gp10 is 20 health, which shouldn't make a Champion much safer. The gp10 is obviously very valuable, but the health aspect is what you've focused on (passivity and aggression being too strong)


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Adalore

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11-09-2012

What is this... Statikk Shiv? Also yay Tiamat is getting a "Legit" use beyond troll builds.

I also hope there is a build option or two for sightstone, however I wouldn't mind it NOT having a build option just due to effectively free wards, maybe at least a "Add giant belt" or a movement speed build option so you are harder to kill late game.


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Fox P McCloud

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11-09-2012

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Luckily, in lane, there are 3 main gank paths.



12 minutes of ward coverage = 300 Gold.

Sightstone = 650 Gold.

There's a starting cost that makes this balanced - as the alternative to Sight Stone is to just buy wards with Gold.
So they only have to buy 1-2 wards themselves each time they go back to solve that issue---so once you've placed 4 wards from this new item, you're actually in theory saving up to 300 gold for yourself each time you go back---the theoretical gold this item will "generate" for supports is insane over the course of a typical game.


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Fiestero

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11-09-2012

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In general, the removals have focused on ones that warp gameplay around itself to the point where no other items can exist or ones that prevents the creation of items that would encourage flexibility in builds.

For example - There is no item that can compete with Heart of Gold. It fits into any build that doesn't run raw damage and is never a bad idea. There is no reason for any other tier 1 item to exist when Heart of Gold does.

In the case of FoN - You can't create many additional MS% or MR options when FoN exists - because the stacked potential would excessively strong. MR and MS% destroy mages when they're readily available as a mage's main safety is range and burst.

Any additional MR/MS% options added to the game would have to also necessitate nerfing FoN as well the items would've had to be balanced to the stacked case - rather than the individual case.
And wouldn't be viable to make specifics "*uniques" like "UNIQUE: this doesnt stacks with FoN MS bonus" and let the door open to more and more viable builds?


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Allan Harper

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11-09-2012

Will there be upgrades for Haunting Guise on Summoners Rift?


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Orconem

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11-09-2012

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Luckily, in lane, there are 3 main gank paths.
So you're okay with every gank path being visible for the cheap price of 150g plus this item every six minutes? This doesn't even encourage counter-warding, as this new item seems to pay for itself extremely fast and buying Vision Wards are quite expensive in comparison.