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@Pendragon, a sincere plea from a banned player

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30 Helens

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Pendragon:
Haha, I'll let you know eventually.


I miss the Pendrakill days. =[


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Primanocte

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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facetious:
It's not the frequency at which you speed, it's the severity. Speeding 50km/h over the limit gets you permabanned from driving. If you're going to try to keep using the analogy, you need to at least understand it. :/


No. No, it doesn't. I'm a criminal defense attorney and I worked for the DA's office right out of law school. Speeding, no matter how severe, will not result in a permanent ban from driving. Vehicular homicide doesn't even result in permanent loss of license.


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ZeroKuno

Senior Member

11-09-2012

What does speeding have to do with behavior of someone in the game?
That doesn't even work as an example.


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Lemurmoudy

Member

11-09-2012

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OBITWIZZLE:
That's entirely false. I got pulled over for doing 88mph in a 55mph zone. That's 33mph which is around 53 km/h. I got a WARNING, not a ticket, no court appearance, certainly no lost license.

Good try, but, you're wrong.


to be fair...88 mph is ****ing fast XD


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Svartfisk

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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Pendragon:
Contrary to popular belief, I'm out of the ban-deciding game these days, although I will give an opinion.

My stance is:

- You knew your behavior was abysmal yet decided to act that way anyway
- You knew the potential consequences, you just thought you'd have a chance to get out of it before

Sounds like you were trying to get away with as much as you could and it bit you. I think that's pretty inexcusable. The Tribunal is one tool we have, but it's not the only tool.


That doesn't mean it's fair to take away his chance to change. He got a different treatment than the majority, which to me is pretty unfair, regardless of crime committed. Skipping the warnings is okay if it's really bad, but I do believe that jumping right onto permaban is unfair.


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Primanocte

Senior Member

11-09-2012

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ZeroKuno:
What does speeding have to do with behavior of someone in the game?
That doesn't even work as an example.


Its actually a pretty spot on example. Speeding and aggressive driving in general can be very toxic to other drivers just the same as raging and negative behavior do in game. One speedng ticket won't cost you your license, but if you get enough points on your record, you could lose you're license for a year.

Its the same in game. One offense should get you warned or temp banned. The player then has a chance to reform. If the behavior continues, then a perma ban may be in order.


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Lemurmoudy

Member

11-09-2012

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Primanocte:
Its actually a pretty spot on example. Speeding and aggressive driving in general can be very toxic to other drivers just the same as raging and negative behavior do in game. One speedng ticket won't cost you your license, but if you get enough points on your record, you could lose you're license for a year.

Its the same in game. One offense should get you warned or temp banned. The player then has a chance to reform. If the behavior continues, then a perma ban may be in order.


Yeah this. I didnt necessarily get as detailed as I would have liked given i hate real life analogys but you did a good job of suming it up haha.


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Irisaurus Rex

Senior Member

11-09-2012

what the heck did you get reported for to get immediately permabanned?


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Fabs

Senior Member

11-09-2012

The investigation probably showed that you were being intentionally malicious because you didn't care about other people or their efforts. I looked at your ELO graph on lolking and found that on Nov 3rd, you realized you already had plat so you didn't give two damns about anyone else's ELO and you threw a ton of games. You wasted a lot of people's time "knowing" that you wouldn't get a perm ban because Riot "never" perm bans you without warning. Well the truth is, you already knew what you were doing is wrong, and you did it anyway. Why should Riot keep providing you with a free game when you give nothing back to the community but malice?

TL;DR - You intentionally hurt other player's experience (when you knew it was wrong) just because you didn't think you would get perm banned for it. You got perm banned for it, you deserve it.


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ZeroKuno

Senior Member

11-09-2012

Quote:
Primanocte:
Its actually a pretty spot on example. Speeding and aggressive driving in general can be very toxic to other drivers just the same as raging and negative behavior do in game. One speedng ticket won't cost you your license, but if you get enough points on your record, you could lose you're license for a year.

Its the same in game. One offense should get you warned or temp banned. The player then has a chance to reform. If the behavior continues, then a perma ban may be in order.


Speeding has the potential to get other people involved. When you are inside a League game you consistently involve 9 other people.

If you count how many people you actually involve in a 1 month span with an offensive behavior and your "speeding" that's a real difference in how many people you actually do affect.
You don't run into people while speeding every single time and do something severely to them. However, when you are being offensive you DO affect more than 1 person every single time.

So how many people do you think are emotionally affected by someone speeding compared to someone being offensive every goddamn game?

If you talk about people needing to get warned before perma-banned...you already stated before that you can't ever get your license revoked permanently. Also, driving is a mean of transportation not an investment in time of anything valuable. Your car depreciates not your League account.

Don't even get me started about speeding and speed limits and specific states and specific nation laws on it.
Speeding in Germany is fine where it seems to be fit and we do have League in Europe. Does that mean being offensive at certain times is ok? rofl