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thornmail, and why is really sucks

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Desocupado

Senior Member

11-06-2012

Maybe it should be cheaper and weaker...
50 Armor, no cloth armor on the recipe, 800g for recipe.


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GhostStalker

Senior Member

11-06-2012

Quote:
RiotNome:
It's being removed for a few reasons.
1. It scales with your opponent's strength, not your own.
2. The gold necessary to counter it (on 3's anyway) far outweighs the investment to buy it.
3. It doesn't introduce any gameplay.


That's absurd. ADC's to a crapton of damage, and the only truly viable way of consistently putting a deterrent in their damage is the thing you're removing.


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ShawNuff

Member

11-06-2012

Quote:
GhostStalker86:
That's absurd. ADC's to a crapton of damage, and the only truly viable way of consistently putting a deterrent in their damage is the thing you're removing.


No one ever accused ADCs of being viable in TT


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George W Nome

Game Designer

11-06-2012

Quote:
GhostStalker86:
That's absurd. ADC's to a crapton of damage, and the only truly viable way of consistently putting a deterrent in their damage is the thing you're removing.

Well, I guess I should add #4.

4. Allows you to counter an opponent without directly interacting with him.


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Noblepeasant

Senior Member

11-06-2012

I dont play TT, but on SR i never buy thornmail. It's always better to get Frozen Heart or Randuins.

Is it that big of a problem on TT?


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JETxGREEN

Senior Member

11-06-2012

Quote:
RiotNome:
Well, I guess I should add #4.

4. Allows you to counter an opponent without directly interacting with him.


Frozen heart does this as well same with randuins. Don't take away the diversity of late game armor that is offered please unless you have something intended to replace it. Great you guys have added a few items to threes but i think you need to keep the diversity of items to build depending on your situation. increse the gold cost or tweak it for 3's but dont take it out.


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GhostStalker

Senior Member

11-06-2012

Quote:
RiotNome:
Well, I guess I should add #4.

4. Allows you to counter an opponent without directly interacting with him.


Sounds like any defensive item.....ever.


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Orbital Nuke

Recruiter

11-06-2012

Quote:
RiotNome:
Well, I guess I should add #4.

4. Allows you to counter an opponent without directly interacting with him.


Just like every aura item in the game? Except less so.
Aegis and Frozen heart especially so for ADC.


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Grimwolff

Senior Member

11-06-2012

Quote:
GhostStalker86:
That's absurd. ADC's to a crapton of damage, and the only truly viable way of consistently putting a deterrent in their damage is the thing you're removing.


Not true, Frozen Heart and Randuin's also hurt ADC damage output. Also, ADC need this buff because they get simply wrecked by the bruiser meta of TT.


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ViolentlyCar

Senior Member

11-06-2012

Quote:
JETxGREEN:
Frozen heart does this as well same with randuins. Don't take away the diversity of late game armor that is offered please unless you have something intended to replace it. Great you guys have added a few items to threes but i think you need to keep the diversity of items to build depending on your situation. increse the gold cost or tweak it for 3's but dont take it out.


Frozen Heart and Randuin's Omen aren't very interesting items, either...