How are you not supposed to be upset when...

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mambawarrior

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11-05-2012

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Originally Posted by Darkvolcan View Post
That's cute and all, except, realistically, when you try to offer advice, you're usually greeted with "stfu nerd i play how i want"

What do you do then?
Try again.
And again.
And again.
And again.
By this point, he will either:
A: Listen
B: Do something reportable.


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GON the Mage Guy

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11-05-2012

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Originally Posted by RisottoNero View Post
Giving advice is useless. Nobody listens and if they are having "just a bad game" like they like to tell you then they should know what to do.

Just don't say anything in chat because you can get banned.
I listen if someone's got advice. Doesn't mean I'll follow it, but I'd rather have the advice given instead of "stop feeding omg noob bot feeder" which seems to be what people choose to say instead.

Hell, other times if what I've got going on isn't working, I'll try their advice since my way isn't going well, like switching over to Thornmail (Egads, there's a use for that item?! NEVER! Troll! Report/ban!) and grabbing a health item rather than rushing straight to Randuins or Frozen Heart.


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Spitsonpuppies

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11-05-2012

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How is 'stop feeding' productive advice? That's pure rage, yo. Plain and simple.

You think the guy at the other end of the computer (who is obviously having a miserable game), is going to read 'stop feeding' and be like:

"Oooooohhh...! That's what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the tip! I'll just... stop."


Next time, try 'Bot lane, just play passive for now- we're letting them snowball. We'll catch you back up by midgame." or "Hey (*jungler*), when you get a sec, could you camp bot for a bit? We're going to have problems later if they keep snowballing from here and I think mid and I will be fine without the ganks."


Or better yet, if his lane is behind and you know they're not going to be able to turn it around, offer if they'd like to swap lanes with you.

But don't ever mistake "stop feeding" as constructive criticism. Or anything but what it is: the petulant whining of someone who is so self-involved that he'd prefer to vent his rage at his teammates rather than endure his tribulations stoically, help his team overcome them, and then carry them to victory.
Do you actually think those profound sentences are going to mean something to the LoL community?


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xKillswitch

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11-05-2012

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How is 'stop feeding' productive advice? That's pure rage, yo. Plain and simple.

You think the guy at the other end of the computer (who is obviously having a miserable game), is going to read 'stop feeding' and be like:

"Oooooohhh...! That's what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the tip! I'll just... stop."


Next time, try 'Bot lane, just play passive for now- we're letting them snowball. We'll catch you back up by midgame." or "Hey (*jungler*), when you get a sec, could you camp bot for a bit? We're going to have problems later if they keep snowballing from here and I think mid and I will be fine without the ganks."

Or better yet, if his lane is behind and you know they're not going to be able to turn it around, offer if they'd like to swap lanes with you.

But don't ever mistake "stop feeding" as constructive criticism. Or anything but what it is: the petulant whining of someone who is so self-involved that he'd prefer to vent his rage at his teammates rather than endure his tribulations stoically, help his team overcome them, and then carry them to victory.
Because let me tell you how there's really enough time to cordially explain to the person how they're failing (I'm playing the game too y'know?) A simple "play safe please, you're behind and can't fight them atm" SHOULD BE ENOUGH that I don't get a "go **** yourself nerd I play how I want".


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Bhare

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11-05-2012

Well, it happens all the damn time. People feed (not intentionally mind you, it just happens). Getting upset doesn't solve anything, and generally makes you play worse.


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Targareyn

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11-05-2012

Kades, we both know respectfully explaining how they can improve is an unrealistic situation when a player is feeding THAT bad. When bot goes 2-25, it's because they're just bad at the game. They don't need a "pick-me-up" from the team captain. Be realistic


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zKaguro

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11-05-2012

How can you not get angry? By not fuming over mistakes, giving constructive advice, staying positive rather than crying "GG WE CAN'T WIN" or w/e, and accepting the defeat to play again. I've won a game when our bot fed a Vayne 13-0, we came back and won through not being babies and just playing the game to win, giving feedback, and playing it through. Had our bot not responded to any feedback, whatever, it's just one game. Grow up~


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Paws and Games

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11-05-2012

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Originally Posted by Kades View Post
How is 'stop feeding' productive advice? That's pure rage, yo. Plain and simple.

You think the guy at the other end of the computer (who is obviously having a miserable game), is going to read 'stop feeding' and be like:

"Oooooohhh...! That's what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the tip! I'll just... stop."


Next time, try 'Bot lane, just play passive for now- we're letting them snowball. We'll catch you back up by midgame." or "Hey (*jungler*), when you get a sec, could you camp bot for a bit? We're going to have problems later if they keep snowballing from here and I think mid and I will be fine without the ganks."


Or better yet, if his lane is behind and you know they're not going to be able to turn it around, offer if they'd like to swap lanes with you.

But don't ever mistake "stop feeding" as constructive criticism. Or anything but what it is: the petulant whining of someone who is so self-involved that he'd prefer to vent his rage at his teammates rather than endure his tribulations stoically, help his team overcome them, and then carry them to victory.
What a good comment. Not being sarcastic


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RisottoNero

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11-05-2012

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Originally Posted by GON the Mage Guy View Post
I listen if someone's got advice. Doesn't mean I'll follow it, but I'd rather have the advice given instead of "stop feeding omg noob bot feeder" which seems to be what people choose to say instead.

Hell, other times if what I've got going on isn't working, I'll try their advice since my way isn't going well, like switching over to Thornmail (Egads, there's a use for that item?! NEVER! Troll! Report/ban!) and grabbing a health item rather than rushing straight to Randuins or Frozen Heart.
Then I doubt you go 0/13 in lane. Those guys are beyond redemption, they won't listen, they are bad and they don't care. I've years of experience. Just ignore the retarded feeder and move on, report if you think it's needed.


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Chocobo X

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11-05-2012

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Originally Posted by Kades View Post
How is 'stop feeding' productive advice? That's pure rage, yo. Plain and simple.

You think the guy at the other end of the computer (who is obviously having a miserable game), is going to read 'stop feeding' and be like:

"Oooooohhh...! That's what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the tip! I'll just... stop."


Next time, try 'Bot lane, just play passive for now- we're letting them snowball. We'll catch you back up by midgame." or "Hey (*jungler*), when you get a sec, could you camp bot for a bit? We're going to have problems later if they keep snowballing from here and I think mid and I will be fine without the ganks."


Or better yet, if his lane is behind and you know they're not going to be able to turn it around, offer if they'd like to swap lanes with you.

But don't ever mistake "stop feeding" as constructive criticism. Or anything but what it is: the petulant whining of someone who is so self-involved that he'd prefer to vent his rage at his teammates rather than endure his tribulations stoically, help his team overcome them, and then carry them to victory.
what you guys don't apparently seem to understand is that this is a competitive game where the objective is to win, but you need teammates willing to work with you and comply, and know how to play the game, and 90% of the time it isn't like this, it gets tremendously frustrating, and most people will crack and say something mean or rude to someone else, and the whole "give constructive criticism" never ever works, because usually the people you try to help will just say "fuk u retadr" or "suk my dik faget" etcetc, or they just will downright ignore you and not listen at all

throughout my time playing this i've had a SINGLE person thank me for advice i gave them, and it was while i was banned and playing on a low level account, i've even had people playing corki and sivir to tell me to **** off when i tell them that they shouldn't build a manamune